Classification: Confidential I don't feel this is the fault of Windows; This is the fault of power-hungry net-nannies who want to control everything (all in the name of protecting the enterprise).
One size fits all, and everyone is too stupid to recognize a phishing email when they see it. A pox on their houses! -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Joe Monk Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 6:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: World’s largest computer outage! [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] More to the point, the issue is not Windows, but the abuse of Windows. Example: requiring administrator rights to do ordinary, everyday tasks. This led to "script kiddies" which caused us to be defensive on PCs, e.g. Anti-Malware. Joe On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:31 PM Steve Beaver < 0000050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > We never had these problems until Windows showed up > > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could type with one thumb > > > On Jul 19, 2024, at 18:22, Paul Edwards < > 00000676ab6435a5-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 06:46:40 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike > > <wayn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Some kind of false economy to make the PC the entire tool of choice > >> for certain routine tasks. > >> > >> In the 1980s we had proprietary banking terminals, private/leased > >> line point to point communications and passbooks. > > > > This is a topic of interest to me. I still program in C90 too. > > Still restrict myself to S/370 instructions too (quibbling aside). > > > > However - for what reason would a proprietary banking terminal be > > more reliable than a PC? Isn't it more the automatic update feature > > of the PC that is the issue? That won't protect against a > > date-related bug in some component though. > > > > So perhaps 2 different PC solutions (e.g. the Amiga) - if we're > > talking 1980s. > > > >> No way our branch network would be unable to perform front counter > >> transactions. We had store and forward whereby local transactions > >> would > be > >> kept until the network was back up and running. > >> > >> In those days we had 3 ATMs, preferring to let other banks provide > >> that service and we would absorb the fees. > >> > >> I drew out $620 in cash from an ATM yesterday, just a few hours > >> before > the > >> crash. Too many people are embracing the cashless world. Time to > >> wake up and apply some common sense. > > > > Are you suggesting using physical cash because software and hardware > > engineers are unable to create a reliable alternative? > > > > The cost of handling physical cash is likely hidden in taxes or > > whatever. If it was properly costed, maybe IBM mainframes would be > > part of the solution, and Amigas too? > > > > Note that I created PDOS because I didn't want to be dependent on > > millions of lines of code that I didn't understand and/or didn't > > have access to. Simplicity. For simple tasks. My wife didn't have > > access to her bank account for about 6 months because she either > > wasn't receiving SMSes at all (from this one bank), or they would > > arrive too > late. > > > > No-one was able to do anything other than say "try again later". > > > > 6 digits could have been sent with a Commodore 64 and a 300 bps > > modem to any spot on earth within 0.2 seconds in the 1980s. > > > > That was in 2023, but even in 2024 SMSes still get lost - and other > > situations too - I think Discord lost a message of mine in 2024. > > I don't remember a zmodem file transfer ever losing a file of mine. > > > > BFN. 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