More to the point, the issue is not Windows, but the abuse of Windows.
Example: requiring administrator rights to do ordinary, everyday tasks.

This led to "script kiddies" which caused us to be defensive on PCs, e.g.
Anti-Malware.

Joe

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:31 PM Steve Beaver <
0000050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> We never had these problems until Windows showed up
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> No one said I could type with one thumb
>
> > On Jul 19, 2024, at 18:22, Paul Edwards <
> 00000676ab6435a5-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 06:46:40 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Some kind of false economy to make the PC the entire tool of choice for
> >> certain routine tasks.
> >>
> >> In the 1980s we had proprietary banking terminals, private/leased line
> >> point to point communications and passbooks.
> >
> > This is a topic of interest to me. I still program in C90 too.
> > Still restrict myself to S/370 instructions too (quibbling aside).
> >
> > However - for what reason would a proprietary banking terminal
> > be more reliable than a PC? Isn't it more the automatic update
> > feature of the PC that is the issue? That won't protect against
> > a date-related bug in some component though.
> >
> > So perhaps 2 different PC solutions (e.g. the Amiga) - if we're
> > talking 1980s.
> >
> >> No way our branch network would be unable to perform front counter
> >> transactions. We had store and forward whereby local transactions would
> be
> >> kept until the network was back up and running.
> >>
> >> In those days we had 3 ATMs, preferring to let other banks provide that
> >> service and we would absorb the fees.
> >>
> >> I drew out $620 in cash from an ATM yesterday, just a few hours before
> the
> >> crash. Too many people are embracing the cashless world. Time to wake up
> >> and apply some common sense.
> >
> > Are you suggesting using physical cash because software and
> > hardware engineers are unable to create a reliable alternative?
> >
> > The cost of handling physical cash is likely hidden in taxes or
> > whatever. If it was properly costed, maybe IBM mainframes
> > would be part of the solution, and Amigas too?
> >
> > Note that I created PDOS because I didn't want to be dependent on
> > millions of lines of code that I didn't understand and/or didn't have
> > access to. Simplicity. For simple tasks. My wife didn't have access to
> > her bank account for about 6 months because she either wasn't
> > receiving SMSes at all (from this one bank), or they would arrive too
> late.
> >
> > No-one was able to do anything other than say "try again later".
> >
> > 6 digits could have been sent with a Commodore 64 and a 300 bps
> > modem to any spot on earth within 0.2 seconds in the 1980s.
> >
> > That was in 2023, but even in 2024 SMSes still get lost - and other
> > situations too - I think Discord lost a message of mine in 2024.
> > I don't remember a zmodem file transfer ever losing a file of mine.
> >
> > BFN. Paul.
> >
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