Hi Joe,

the issue is windows, but caused by crowdstrike.
Unlike Linux, Microsoft Windows never implemented switchable boot images. 
Microsoft loads all drivers as separate files. Linux has a one file/image 
kernel that includes all the loadable kernel driver modules. Its just bad 
design, if one driver file is not readable or defunct, that the whole operating 
system is stuck in the boot process (think about GPU drivers that cause BOD 
bootloops, this is has been a problem since more than 20 years - remember 
disabling drivers via F8 boot into shell and then from shell using 
enable/disable commands). It would be so easy to keep the last good known boot 
images (including drivers) and switch back automatically, if booting does not 
succeed for e.g. 3 times.
Microsoft is not learning or improving the vulnerabilities of their boot 
process.

The quick fix is to delete a file from booting into safe mode windows, but if 
windows is bitlocker encrypted, you need the bitlocker key to do that, 
otherwise you are stuck. At least some hardware has the option to deploy new 
Windows images via some sort of Bios/Mini-Operating System that just takes an 
image via network and writes it to disk.

Denis.





On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 01:39:33 AM GMT+2, Joe Monk 
<000005971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: 





More to the point, the issue is not Windows, but the abuse of Windows.
Example: requiring administrator rights to do ordinary, everyday tasks.

This led to "script kiddies" which caused us to be defensive on PCs, e.g.
Anti-Malware.

Joe

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:31 PM Steve Beaver <
0000050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> We never had these problems until Windows showed up
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> No one said I could type with one thumb
>
> > On Jul 19, 2024, at 18:22, Paul Edwards <
> 00000676ab6435a5-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 06:46:40 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Some kind of false economy to make the PC the entire tool of choice for
> >> certain routine tasks.
> >>
> >> In the 1980s we had proprietary banking terminals, private/leased line
> >> point to point communications and passbooks.
> >
> > This is a topic of interest to me. I still program in C90 too.
> > Still restrict myself to S/370 instructions too (quibbling aside).
> >
> > However - for what reason would a proprietary banking terminal
> > be more reliable than a PC? Isn't it more the automatic update
> > feature of the PC that is the issue? That won't protect against
> > a date-related bug in some component though.
> >
> > So perhaps 2 different PC solutions (e.g. the Amiga) - if we're
> > talking 1980s.
> >
> >> No way our branch network would be unable to perform front counter
> >> transactions. We had store and forward whereby local transactions would
> be
> >> kept until the network was back up and running.
> >>
> >> In those days we had 3 ATMs, preferring to let other banks provide that
> >> service and we would absorb the fees.
> >>
> >> I drew out $620 in cash from an ATM yesterday, just a few hours before
> the
> >> crash. Too many people are embracing the cashless world. Time to wake up
> >> and apply some common sense.
> >
> > Are you suggesting using physical cash because software and
> > hardware engineers are unable to create a reliable alternative?
> >
> > The cost of handling physical cash is likely hidden in taxes or
> > whatever. If it was properly costed, maybe IBM mainframes
> > would be part of the solution, and Amigas too?
> >
> > Note that I created PDOS because I didn't want to be dependent on
> > millions of lines of code that I didn't understand and/or didn't have
> > access to. Simplicity. For simple tasks. My wife didn't have access to
> > her bank account for about 6 months because she either wasn't
> > receiving SMSes at all (from this one bank), or they would arrive too
> late.
> >
> > No-one was able to do anything other than say "try again later".
> >
> > 6 digits could have been sent with a Commodore 64 and a 300 bps
> > modem to any spot on earth within 0.2 seconds in the 1980s.
> >
> > That was in 2023, but even in 2024 SMSes still get lost - and other
> > situations too - I think Discord lost a message of mine in 2024.
> > I don't remember a zmodem file transfer ever losing a file of mine.
> >
> > BFN. Paul.
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