What company were working for then? Morons R us? > On 20 Jul 2024, at 08:45, Dave Beagle > <00000525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > In Tech Support we never had an issue with having admin rights to our PCs. > Newbies in security/audit had the bright idea to change that. It made us less > productive, and gained nothing in return. A coworker called it security > theater. > > > > Dave B. > > إسرائيل قتلت 40 ألف فلسطيني بريء > > > On Friday, July 19, 2024, 8:27 PM, Clement Clarke > <000005cb6e944c87-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Can we bring back OS/2? > > Clem. > > >> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:39 AM Joe Monk < >> 000005971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >> >> More to the point, the issue is not Windows, but the abuse of Windows. >> Example: requiring administrator rights to do ordinary, everyday tasks. >> >> This led to "script kiddies" which caused us to be defensive on PCs, e.g. >> Anti-Malware. >> >> Joe >> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:31 PM Steve Beaver < >> 0000050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >> >>> We never had these problems until Windows showed up >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> No one said I could type with one thumb >>> >>>> On Jul 19, 2024, at 18:22, Paul Edwards < >>> 00000676ab6435a5-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 06:46:40 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike < >> wayn...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some kind of false economy to make the PC the entire tool of choice >> for >>>>> certain routine tasks. >>>>> >>>>> In the 1980s we had proprietary banking terminals, private/leased line >>>>> point to point communications and passbooks. >>>> >>>> This is a topic of interest to me. I still program in C90 too. >>>> Still restrict myself to S/370 instructions too (quibbling aside). >>>> >>>> However - for what reason would a proprietary banking terminal >>>> be more reliable than a PC? Isn't it more the automatic update >>>> feature of the PC that is the issue? That won't protect against >>>> a date-related bug in some component though. >>>> >>>> So perhaps 2 different PC solutions (e.g. the Amiga) - if we're >>>> talking 1980s. >>>> >>>>> No way our branch network would be unable to perform front counter >>>>> transactions. We had store and forward whereby local transactions >> would >>> be >>>>> kept until the network was back up and running. >>>>> >>>>> In those days we had 3 ATMs, preferring to let other banks provide >> that >>>>> service and we would absorb the fees. >>>>> >>>>> I drew out $620 in cash from an ATM yesterday, just a few hours before >>> the >>>>> crash. Too many people are embracing the cashless world. Time to wake >> up >>>>> and apply some common sense. >>>> >>>> Are you suggesting using physical cash because software and >>>> hardware engineers are unable to create a reliable alternative? >>>> >>>> The cost of handling physical cash is likely hidden in taxes or >>>> whatever. If it was properly costed, maybe IBM mainframes >>>> would be part of the solution, and Amigas too? >>>> >>>> Note that I created PDOS because I didn't want to be dependent on >>>> millions of lines of code that I didn't understand and/or didn't have >>>> access to. Simplicity. For simple tasks. My wife didn't have access to >>>> her bank account for about 6 months because she either wasn't >>>> receiving SMSes at all (from this one bank), or they would arrive too >>> late. >>>> >>>> No-one was able to do anything other than say "try again later". >>>> >>>> 6 digits could have been sent with a Commodore 64 and a 300 bps >>>> modem to any spot on earth within 0.2 seconds in the 1980s. >>>> >>>> That was in 2023, but even in 2024 SMSes still get lost - and other >>>> situations too - I think Discord lost a message of mine in 2024. >>>> I don't remember a zmodem file transfer ever losing a file of mine. >>>> >>>> BFN. Paul. >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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