[email protected] (Edward Jaffe) writes: > Having paid many tens of thousands of $ in my younger days on a > per-CPU-second basis for time-sharing to develop my software ideas, a > flat $500/month for multiple developers using a fully-supported, > private z/OS system with the latest hardware, an exhaustive software > stack, and expert technical support seems pretty darn reasonable to > me! > > By comparison, an MSDN Visual Studio Ultimate subscription from > Microsoft is $13K + $5K/year PER DEVELOPER, doesn't include hardware > or system configuration expertise, and provides only four tech support > incidents per year.
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#74 mainframe "selling" points http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#75 mainframe "selling" points http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#76 mainframe "selling" points http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#5 mainframe "selling" points http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#6 mainframe "selling" points http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#7 mainframe "selling" points http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#8 mainframe "selling" points old post of a cloud on-demand dynamically created 240TFLOP supercomputer that rents for less than $2k/hr (less for large guarenteed use) ... which would translate into (dynamically, on-demand) 762 e5-2600 blades (at 315GFLOP) or 402TIPS (aka integer, not floating pt) and 12200 cores. The article mentions 17,000 cores ... which works out to more like older x5690 chips rather than [email protected]. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#78 from more than year ago: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-57349321-62/amazon-takes-supercomputing-to-the-cloud/ during past year, price competition has heated up between Google & Amazon ... http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/google-launches-alleged-amazon-web-services-killer-but-lacks-maturity-options/81276 mentions Amazon "free" tier http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/ and recently there is even news articles about IBM jumping into the cloud on-demand fray. some recent posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#42 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#26 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#27 Search Google, 1960:s-style on-demand 51,132 cores for $4829/hr nearly yr ago http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/4829-per-hour-supercomputer-built-on-amazon-cloud-to-fuel-cancer-research/ The $4829/hr; would cover total system, storage, people, infrastructure, floor space, power, cooling, etc costs plus something to cover on-demand idle capacity plus something for profit. 52x7x24x7hrs @4829/hr comes to total of $42M/yr (minus significant discount for commited use instead of purely on-demand). 51132 cores works out to approx. 3200 e5-2600 systems and nearly 1,700TIPS (1,700,000BIPS). At IBM's base price of $1815/blade, 3200 systems comes to nearly $6M (only $2M based on comments that cloud operators build for 1/3rd brand name price). 1,700TIPS would be the equivalent 33,683 50BIPS, 80processor z196 systems ... which would come to $943B for the hardware and nearly $6T total at 6.25 ratio including software, services and storage. Amazon Announces 2 New EC2 Instance Types: Cluster High Memory With 240GB RAM And High Storage With 48TB HDD Space http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/29/amazon-announces-2-new-ec2-instance-types-cluster-high-memory-with-240gb-ram-and-high-storage-with-48tb-hdd-space/ this mentions less than 70 people for 7x24 mega-datacenter operation http://gigaom.com/2012/07/08/a-geeks-road-trip-north-carolinas-data-center-cluster/ this mentions 50-60 people http://royal.pingdom.com/2010/09/15/googles-mega-data-center-in-finland/ one of the largest, 150 people http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/locations/the-dalles/ this discusses some of the mega-datacenter evolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
