Sorry, for my first blow-up...

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From: harbour-boun...@harbour-project.org 
[mailto:harbour-boun...@harbour-project.org] On Behalf Of Viktor Szakáts
Sent: 2009. november 15. 23:21
To: Harbour Project Main Developer List.
Subject: Re: [Harbour] Edit Compile Debug in visual cycle

> Hi,
> 
> Is hard to explain to everybody why is necessary to implement a new modern 
> environment to develop something. As I see, is not this list goal at all. If 
> we are reducing our argues to some key combinations, is far away from our 
> goals. So, please be flexible to go from an old to a new approach. Sorry, 
> these are my first reactions.
> István

Don't be mistaken, the MC discussion is just a side-track, pretty much off 
topic, 
but of course I'd be personally interested in boosting my *nix env using 
existing 
tools.

Anyhow a GUI IDE of some sort can be a logical next goal for Harbour 
development. 
I mean, if someone wants to develop such thing keeping in mind our overall 
goals 
(like portability), I'd certainly not stop him. Personally though I'd rather 
concentrate on core features, we're still missing quite many important bits 
(native UNICODE, SQL stuff, XML support, GTNET). So it's more important IMO to 
provide all the necessary bits in Harbour core to enable developers to create 
such an IDE in a relatively easy way.

IDE is typically a sub-project which can be done quite well separated from 
core Harbour, in parallel with core development. Given there are developers 
willing 
to spend time on it.

Another related area where Harbour could catch up is missing Harbour/Clipper 
support in several well-known and widely used editors, and also the source code 
scanner ohloh.net is using. Such additions would be great for the language.
(Similarly to a proper wikipedia article). TextEdit (on OS X), JEdit, kate, 
etc. Adding support to these editors is another great way to help developers. 
After all Python, Ruby or Mono also don't have any IDEs built by core team, 
yet they manage quite well on the popularity lists.

Brgds,
Viktor

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