Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes: > reza <r...@housseini.me> writes: > >> To access the email lists on savannah you%d >> provide an email address and a password, to create an account on%d >> codeberg you provide exactly the same information. > > For participating in the email lists (both bug reports and patch > submissions), you only need to send an email. You do not need to create > an account on savannah nor subscribe. > > For subscribing, yes, you need to provide an email (obviously), but you > do not need to agree to any legal document (like Codeberg's Terms of > Use). So I think your assessment that they are exactly the same is not > correct.
For those of us without the werewithal to self-host our email on our own hardware (which includes me, and I would assume the majority of us, despite the overall power-user bent of this community), we have to create an account with an email provider, and agree to their Terms of Service. Even people who operate their own mail server are probably running it on a VPS or something, and I'm pretty sure there are going to be ToS involved there as well. So in effect, most people using email are at the mercy of an external service provider, the same way we would be at Codeberg's mercy. And I am of the opinion that Codeberg is far more benevolent than most large email providers these days. That said, I do somewhat agree with the points you made earlier about Codeberg's specific ToS. I doubt Codeberg is going to go evil anytime soon, but some of those clauses do seem a bit scary. Then again, we already have our infrastructure (repos, mailing lists) run by the FSF (Savannah is an FSF project), so we're very much at /their/ mercy right now; and I've heard more negative opinions of them than I've ever heard about Codeberg.
