On 2014-04-30, 1:19 PM, Pascal Chevrel wrote:

Obviously you don't know Benoit. He has been deeply involved in the Mozilla project for at least 10 years, he is one of our core localizers for French, he was there when there was no money, no employee and we had to build products on our own machines. He probably did more for mozilla as a volunteer than many did as employees.
Though I didn't realise that Benoit was a longstanding Rep and community member, I certainly meant no offense or disrespect; I should have looked him up before clicking send, true, and I apologize for any offense to Benoit or to the community he represents.

Nevertheless, I stand by my point: that while his request is not at all unreasonable, and his desire for privacy is noble and well-aligned with Mozilla's mission, in order for Mozilla to be successful - both symbolically, and in a boots-on-the-ground practical sense - we need to manage our limited resources without ever taking our eyes off our highest priorities. And, I don't mean our priorities in terms of quarterly goals and bug numbers, I mean in the big-picture, long-game Victory For The Manifesto sense.

It seems like it would take a lot of work to rally and grow a community around replacing existing web-analytics software, and it's not entirely clear who would directly or indirectly benefit from that, or what the costs would be.

In contrast other efforts, like webcompat evangelism for FirefoxOS and FIrefox for Android, for example: those look a lot more like a banner people will rally behind to make the Web better, have a clear near-term payoff and help cut a path to a better future.

My argument is ultimately that we need to engage the world as we find it, with the best tools the world offers us today, if we're going shape the future effectively. I can understand his frustration at our reliance on a lot of Google tools, and he's not alone in that. But I think the most important thing we can be doing with a dozen people isn't the long migration of washing our hands of Google's tools and services, but by building a world where it's still possible for viable competitors can emerge.

- mhoye
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