Nicholas,

At the level of the current situation, yes, this is rare, but it's not so
rare that things are going on where we should try to engage the general
public* outside of a support capacity.

* We probably have a better term for this. I mean people who aren't
identified Mozillians who might want more information or to engage on a
single issue - a single new feature, a single campaign - and then want to
disengage.

From the perspective of that user, the current communication channels have
too high a bar. A category on the current discourse isn't ideal as it would
basically be a firehose of information for someone who only wants to engage
on a single issue. On the flip side, that firehose is exactly why we have
the communication channels we have. Cannibalising a forum for a new purpose
will make it less good at serving its current purpose.

Dealing with an onslaught of criticism is hard for the best of us. Simply
ignoring those threads isn't well, that simple. It was an incredibly
demoralizing experience at best.

jsabash - what you're afraid of is basically what happens now. There is no
place for someone to come and engage as an outsider on a single issue. If
they post in a bug they will be told that is the wrong place, if they
complain on SUMO they will be told to register their complaint on input.
Input gets you no response. If they do make it to the relevant mailing
list, they will also probably be told to check the past discussion and the
decision was already made. None of these places are designed to engage with
users on the same questions and concerns over and over again. We made an
exception for the CEO issue because we understood how serious an issue it
was.

I also realized that the Reps program is basically tailor made to run such
a forum if we agreed it would be a good idea. Engaging with the public to
discuss Mozilla and its mission, as well as connecting them back to the
greater community is basically what Reps are entirely (I haven't run this
past other Reps leadership yet ;D )


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Rubén Martín
<nukea...@mozilla-hispano.org>wrote:

> El 16/04/14 00:05, Majken Connor escribió:
> > It does occur to me that Discourse would be a very good tool for this,
> > though I'd recommend a stand-alone instance from one we might use for
> > team/community communications. An area of SUMO might work as well, though
> > it would need to be a separate forum that doesn't rely on the SUMO
> > contributors to moderate and monitor.
> Why not having a "General discussion" category on the already existing
> discourse <https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/> instance?
>
> If then we find topics very diverse, we can create a new category to
> handle them and grow organically.
>
> Regards.
>
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