Ah. I forgot I was on that Internet thingy. 

> On Aug 23, 2023, at 2:29 AM, TheDiveO <harald.albre...@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> "That education place" considers thermodynamics to be a cultural issue, see 
> their waterseer disaster where MIT even doubled down on not understanding 
> physics and thermodynamics at all.
> 
>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:57:22 PM UTC+2 Robert Engels wrote:
>> MIT = “that education place” is pretty funny. But you’re spot on. 
>> 
>>>> On Aug 20, 2023, at 2:51 AM, TheDiveO <harald....@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> That education place has never talked to any employer, that's what their 
>>> list suggests. It's not about the items on this list. It won't ever 
>>> correct. But it is basically saying that with one or a few more classes 
>>> you're ready for your job. That's marketing selling. Depending on the job 
>>> there's need for cheap code producers, or in other jobs for people going 
>>> where there is no prior art. Totally different coders. But both don't need 
>>> coders with many classes, either because it's making them expensive or they 
>>> have gone through the classes to just accumulate useless knowledge they 
>>> still cannot transfer to new challenges.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:54:38 PM UTC+2 Andrew Harris wrote:
>>>>> The kinds of skills and knowledge covered by 
>>>>> https://missing.csail.mit.edu are important and hard to gain from an IDE. 
>>>>> I think that's the badge of competence earned here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-7 Robert Engels wrote:
>>>>> The power of IDEs is the ease of refactoring and integration with other 
>>>>> build tools (git, lint, github/gerrit). If you’d added all of these 
>>>>> plugins to vim - you’ve created your own ide - and it probably pales in 
>>>>> comparison to a real IDE.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using plain vim as a badge of competence was disproven long ago.
>>>> 
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