"That education place" considers thermodynamics to be a cultural issue, see 
their waterseer disaster where MIT even doubled down on not understanding 
physics and thermodynamics at all.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:57:22 PM UTC+2 Robert Engels wrote:

> MIT = “that education place” is pretty funny. But you’re spot on. 
>
> On Aug 20, 2023, at 2:51 AM, TheDiveO <harald....@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> That education place has never talked to any employer, that's what their 
> list suggests. It's not about the items on this list. It won't ever 
> correct. But it is basically saying that with one or a few more classes 
> you're ready for your job. That's marketing selling. Depending on the job 
> there's need for cheap code producers, or in other jobs for people going 
> where there is no prior art. Totally different coders. But both don't need 
> coders with many classes, either because it's making them expensive or they 
> have gone through the classes to just accumulate useless knowledge they 
> still cannot transfer to new challenges.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:54:38 PM UTC+2 Andrew Harris wrote:
>
>> The kinds of skills and knowledge covered by 
>> https://missing.csail.mit.edu are important and hard to gain from an 
>> IDE. I think that's the badge of competence earned here.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-7 Robert Engels wrote:
>>
>> The power of IDEs is the ease of refactoring and integration with other 
>> build tools (git, lint, github/gerrit). If you’d added all of these plugins 
>> to vim - you’ve created your own ide - and it probably pales in comparison 
>> to a real IDE.
>>
>> Using plain vim as a badge of competence was disproven long ago.
>>
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