I used to hate it because  costs so darn much but goland is my ide. I dnt 
hate vs code, I've done vm and really like neovim nv chad, but at the end I 
just am more productive in goland. Even tried fleet but always come back to 
goland.for me the time saved is worth the price.

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:01:48 PM UTC-4 Justin Israel wrote:

> I usually hate this question and threads, because it's a bunch of people 
> arguing that their solution is superior. 
> There are always individuals stating how all they need is VIM or a plain 
> text editor with no syntax highlighting. 
> And then those like myself that feel very productive from the Jetbrains 
> ecosystem because of its superior performance in large codebases and 
> exceptional refactoring tools. No one is going to convince me that I would 
> be more productive learning all the vim hot keys and doing it in a terminal 
> without touching the mouse. It's just not my jam. And I wouldn't try to 
> convince those developers to switch away from vim if they are happy. I 
> prefer the visual feedback that I get from Intellij when refactoring and 
> making really complicated changes. Typing is typing and everything can do 
> that well to some degree with a language plugin. But things like the way my 
> personal choice lays out unit testing and making it easy to retry subsets 
> and see everything I need to see at once works for me. 
> I just don't get the point of these threads that try to narrow in on the 
> "best" ide. 
>
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:17:35 AM UTC+12 Robert Engels wrote:
>
>> Reread what I wrote. Vim with autocomplete, etc is not a simple text 
>> editor with syntax coloring. 
>>
>> Still every major software engineering org in the world uses an ide (or 
>> multiple). I guess they don’t know what they are doing. 
>>
>> Btw, Googles current IDE is based on VSCode. 
>>
>> > On Aug 19, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Jan Mercl <0xj...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 10:06 PM Christian Stewart 
>> > <chri...@aperture.us> wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> Autocomplete and a go language server (gopls) add a ton of speed 
>> because you don't need to look up the docs for function and variable names. 
>> And go to definition improves speed navigating code significantly. 
>> > 
>> > - Using autocomplete and go-to-definiton does not require VSCode or 
>> > any other IDE. 
>> > - I do use autocomplete and go-to-definition. When I said I use no 
>> > IDE, that does not mean I don't use those features. 
>> > - The speed of typing/inputting code is overally a rather negligible 
>> > factor of the total time cost of developing/debugging and maintaining 
>> > any non-toy project. IOW, it's not a significant metric of 
>> > productivity. 
>> > 
>> >> But vim-go can do both, so why not just use it? 
>> > 
>> > Because I use govim? ;-) 
>> > 
>> > (But not for my large projects, gopls chokes on them still too often 
>> > to tolerate it.) 
>> > 
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