Mark Kirkwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Do you know what defamation and slander is?
> >
> > If people did not believe in unproven and untrue claims, there was no 
> > problem.
> > It therefore seems to be important to prevent underlying "messages".......
>
> Do you understand opinion? This is the heart of the matter. Your mention 
> of lawyers does not change this - as legal opinion is merely an opinion 
> that costs some money! (if your lawyer says !Z it does not stop another 
> one saying Z)...


Short answer: in a democracy, your freedom ends where you may start to 
influence the freedom of others.



Long answer:

If you repeat the "opinion" of other people, you make it _your_ opinion and if 
your opinion may harm other people, you are not allowed to publish it unless 
you are able to definitely prove it!

I am the author and I tell you that there is no problem. I am the only person 
who could sue you and I can't if I did tell you before that there is no problem.


Also note that these people from Debian (whose claims have been repeated) have 
ZERO credibiltiy. In September 2006, when they started cdrkit, they claimed 
that there were exactly two problems:

Claim 1:        "The CDDL is not a free license"

Reality:        The CDDL was accepted by the _whole_ ODD community at the
                end of January 2005. Everybody had the change to send his
                remarks, Debian did not. Even Debian officially accepted the
                CDDL as a definitive free license in August 2006.


Claim 2:        "The build system for a GPLd program needs to be under GPL"

Reality:        The people around Bloch took the last GPLd cdrtools source
                and replaced the original build system by a build system
                that is definitely not under GPL (it is under a four clause
                BSDl). "All animals are equal but some animals are more
                equal than others"?

You should be very careful when you repeat the claims from people who 
repeatedly published _obvious_ false claims in order to harm the cdrtools 
project.

BTW: The claims from the people around Bloch are _not_ made by lawyers but by 
laymen. 

Jörg

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