Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland [was Re: sddm xorg-session.log file is a little large.]

[Javier Martinez]

El 18/9/25 a las 6:15, Alexis escribió:

At this point, i must conclude that you're not discussing this in good faith, since not only has Gentoo dev Eli also noted how your understanding is incorrect, but you also seem to be implying that i'm saying things i didn't say:

You did not give arguments at all.

Linus Torvalds is god, has him to be always correct by this reason??. Do you know what "ad hominem fallacy" is?

i haven't denied this at all. For instance, i've said:

There is no Xorg server running on my machine other than the Xwayland instance

Xwayland IS one Xorg server, talks Xprotocol and get's rendered by wayland. X it's the protocol that it's talked by Xorg or by Xfree86 that it's talked by Xwayland.

which implies that i regard Xwayland as an Xorg server, but also, i've explicitly said:

> Xwayland runs an X server on top of a Wayland compositor

You wrote:

Sorry, you are using X protocol and by extension one Xorg COMPLIANT
server.

i've already addressed this, as has Eli.

I just told you, that if you want being a wayland user just use wayland protocol, not Xorg ones. If you use Xwayland you are using xorg since you are using his protocol. It's easy to understand.

You don't like Xorg

i've never said i don't like Xorg. What i _have_ said, twice now, is:

Me saying "Wayland is ready for my use case" doesn't mean i think
Xorg should die. Far from it. i hope that enough people stand up to
volunteer to help maintain and improve Xorg and its derivatives that
it can continue to exist indefinitely.

Alexis.

So i'm not sure it's going to be productive for me to engage with you much further.

And I have never told you that you like or not Xorg. Can you please point me when I told you this??? You are talking about that wayland gives you what you need while you are using Xorg as you are using his protocol with Xwayland. It's totally incoherent. First use wayland in standalone mode, using it's own protocol, without Xwayland, after that talk about if it can or not substitute Xorg.

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