Javier Martinez <[email protected]> writes:
I'm neither a gamer, I just told you software that lacks support
of
wayland.
Okay, fair enough.
Please, get realized that you are not using Wayland, you are
using
Xorg with a wayland driver. The compositor (your wayland) runs
under
a Xorg server
It does not. End of story. As i demonstrated with my `ps ax`
output.
i've run various window managers over the years, including Fluxbox
and Compiz, on top of Xorg. Wayland compositors do not run on top
of X. They just don't.
A 'compositor' is _not_ defined as "something that runs on X".
some applications could run using only "wayland calls"
but always under Xorg.
No.
If you want to use wayland trully DONT USE xwayland. It's
easy. If you
want to be a wayland user don't run it under Xorg.
i'm not, as i've demonstrated. And people can test this for
themselves. They can start up a Wayland compositor and check if an
`X` process - not an `Xwayland` process - appears in the process
list for their system. (In the case of Wayfire, it starts up an
Xwayland process on the user's behalf, i.e. _after_ it has itself
started.)
If you run it under
Xorg (to be able to use Xorg software using Xwayland) you are
just one
Xorg user that uses a different Xorg driver from me. I user
modesetting, you are using wayland. That's all.
No.
This is the sort of misinformation on this topic that causes me so
much frustration, and why i talk about how i've been working on
making sure the wiki contains accurate information about this
stuff.
Quoting the Wayland FAQ, https://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html:
Is wayland replacing the X server?
Mostly, yes. User sessions are able to run under Wayland today,
via a
number of compositors: Weston itself as well as Enlightenment,
GNOME
Shell, KDE, and a number of others under development. With most
toolkits having Wayland ports, as well as frameworks such as
GStreamer
and SDL, it's perfectly possible to run a purely native Wayland
session as your desktop.
That being said, there are some clients which rely on X11, and
always
will be. To that end, Xwayland provides a plugin for Wayland
compositors, running a real X server. This gives legacy clients
a real
and compliant X11 platform to run on, displayed side by side
with
native Wayland clients in your Wayland session.
This particular subthread is getting absurd. i encourage people to
test out for themselves how things actually work, and to learn
about how Wayland works by looking at relevant resources cited on
the wiki.
Alexis.
