On Friday 24 Jul 2015 18:32:33 James wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin <at> googlemail.com> writes:
> > > Rich, I'll be practical. Gentoo needs an installer program, like most
> > > other distros if you want your rank_n_file users to entice new users.
> > 
> > nope.
> > Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not
> > being able to read simple instructions already or spending 5minutes on
> > google&thinking for themselves. Just look at this mailing list. We
> > really don't need more of them.
> 
> Really? If that all there is to it, then we would have lots of users;
> many can and do read. Here are a few snippets from the gentoo-dev list
> on the subject of a new installer::
> 
> "Hi Matthew
> I fancy your idea a lot. We ought to do it for complete newbies who are new
> to Gentoo but would like to give the distribution a shot nonetheless. I
> fondly remember my first attempt who took me ages to complete."
> 
> "The goal of the web interface would allow for "unattended graphical
> installs." "
> 
> " Maybe a bit off-topic, but occasionally I need a tool to "fast
> install Gentoo and fine-tune it later" "
> 
> 
> "So a quick sabayon install and update via entropy, followed by an update
> of the portage config (the entropy package updates will have diverged
> from the initially synced state) using the appropriate tool, should leave
> you with a generally current and synced system built from binaries.
> That's your working system at end-of-day."
> 
> Just a few, but you get the point. There's more if you look.
> 
> 
> If folks do not want a graphical installer nobody would force them to
> use it. Many would prefer a graphical installer that is mostly unattended;
> so for that reason, why not? Nobody is say you have to use it; it just
> becomes and option. You are certainly entitled to your opinion; but that's
> not going to grow the user base, imho.
> 
> 
> hth,
> James

Perhaps if in addition a new mailing list for graphical-install users only was 
created, the arrival of an automated graphical installer would not raise the 
signal to noise ratio in the gentoo-user M/L.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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