On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's
decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an
initramfs; have you ever stopped to consider that, perhaps, that's the
best *technical*  decision? (*gasp*)

That is *not* the concern here, Canek, and that should be obvious from the comments here.

Repeat: the primary concern is *not* about separate /usr without initramfs.

The primary concern is that systemd will eventually be shoved down our throats whether we want it or not, and using eudev or mdev or *anything* other than systemd (ie OpenRC/eudev) will.

And the track record speaks for itself, regardless of *any* promises that it won't, it is obvious to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear that this is a blatant LIE.

Everything that is happening is simply setting the stage for precisely that.

When you have almost all distributions converging on that, and even
*the OpenRC maintainer*  (which is the one pushing this, BTW, not the
systemd guys) supporting that decision, don't you think that perhaps,
just*perhaps*, everybody screaming about the sky falling (which, BTW,
they are certainly noisy, but I really don't think are that many) are
overreacting and even (*gasp* again) wrong?

Again, the main issue is not about separate /usr, so please stop trying to deflect the subject...

In my opinion, the single largest reason to *not* switch to systemd in gentoo is the source of the push - in other words, it is coming from Fedora - and GNOME lovers are the maintainers.

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