On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:51:00 +0200 Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2015-07-18, o godz. 12:01:48
> Matthew Marchese <maffblas...@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> 
> > I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. 
> > I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC 
> > concerning my plans. Most seem to be in support of Gentoo having a 
> > "official" installer (the biggest concern is appears to be how things will 
> > be implemented and the amount of features involved). This e-mail is to 
> > fulfill GLEP 39's request for comments (RFC), concerns, requests, etc. 
> > Since I'm a little new to the project I'm coming with a bit of ignorance; I 
> > know the previous Installer project fostered mixed feelings.
> > 
> > If you'd like to review before replying you can see the Wiki page and find 
> > the source on GitHub: https://github.com/gentoo/stager
> > 
> > To summarize I'm writing it in pure Python 3. It first will be able to 
> > create full backups (stage 4s) and recoveries. After that is finished I 
> > plan to move on to installations. There will potentially be a web interface 
> > UI for it. Others are free to create other front-ends; to me a web UI makes 
> > the most sense and would probably require the least deps.
> > 
> > I'd like to hear it all so please speak your mind. Looking forward to 
> > hearing from you.
> 
> On a semi-related note, I was thinking about doing a semi-related
> project :).
> 
> I personally don't think Gentoo needs installer as-is. However, I think
> we'd really benefit from having some kind of helper scripts / checklist
> of tasks to be done prior to/after install.
> 
> For example, you'd run 'check-my-install' script and it'd tell you what
> you likely forgot to set up :).
 
Maybe a bit off-topic, but occasionally I need a tool to "fast
install Gentoo and fine-tune it later". This happens quite often on
a new job box, oh during visits where I'm given a workstation and
3-4 hours to set it up before doing real work and so on.

The idea is to have binary-based Gentoo ready to work on general
common hardware with such software out of the box as fully-fledged
modern gui browsers (chromium, firefox), libreoffice, xterm,
screen, vim, compilers, ldap support and other dev tools. Set of
packages may vary, but the idea is that they should work out of the
box due to tight constrains on initial system configuration (boss
should see that I'm doing my job at the end of the day).

But afterwards I'd like to tune this setup in a usual Gentoo way:
configure kernel, USE flags, {C,CXX,F,FC,LD}FLAGS, select proper
alternatives and so on more or less accordant to the devmanual.

Self prepared catalyst build for general ~amd64 looks appropriate
to the task, but they require too much maintenance effort: each
update is a pain and quite time consuming and I need such images
only once or twice per year, but still I need them!

In the ideal world it would be nice to have such stage4 ebuilds
available to speed-up initial installation and configuration
process.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko

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