On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:10:52 -0500 J.Rutkowski wrote: > The problem I have with using Sabayon to ultimately install Gentoo is it > takes way too much work than just doing a Gentoo install...
You missed my point. I'm interesting not in minimizing total time spent for installation and configuration. I'm interested in fast bootstrapping from "here your box" to "you need to have this work done". Of course proper configuration and fine tuning will require time, but this should be done later, not right away. > You would have to uninstall all entropy applications If this is supported using emerge --depclean or some other tool present in the distribution, this is fine. > and begin using > just portage, edit make.conf (look for sabayon mirrors), rebuild world, > replace Sabayon Kernel with Gentoo kernel, I will have to rebuild kernel, @system and @world anyway, even with GRS installation. > change framebuffer splash from Sabayon, Installing lilo in text mode should be fine, right? > remove overlay and rebuild all over again, and then hunt > down the rest of the Sabayon-specific files. This what is bothers me. Are they leftovers outside of portage control? > You will have breakage. I always have breakage even during casual updates. 1 failed package per 100 built is a very good result. Often I have 1/50 failures (though most of them can be fixed by running some damn-cleaner or updater). > That doesn't even take into account downgrading from ~amd64. I never use stable arches, even in production. Software is just too old for my needs and taste, lots of packages are not keyworded for stable at all. Security updates for stable are often too slow as well. Your mileage may vary of course, after all there are many people interested in stable, but I'm not one of them. Yeah, I file stabilization requests for my packages, work with arch teams, but this is my burden as a maintainer of these packages, nothing more. > If you are doing that much rebuilding, it's faster just to do it yourself > originally. It depends on "faster" how, as I mentioned above, I have use cases where the smallest time from raw box till working environment is critical. I can use any other distro of course and start to setup my Gentoo chroot/partition as usual, but it is much faster to use Gentoo derivative than any other random distro, right? Anyway there are many Gentoo derivatives, not only Sabayon. Probably I should check Calculate too. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko
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