-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 02/19/2015 10:31 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Thursday 19 February 2015 10:07:30 Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> On 02/19/2015 09:57 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On 02/19/15 06:10, Mike Gilbert wrote: What saddens me the most >>> is that these pointless threads are becoming sort of a habit >>> not because the reporter is really offended by the original >>> action, but because he/she uses that to prove that QA is dying, >>> Gentoo is a zombie, cvs sucks and elephants could fly. >>
.. > >> What is more relevant is how that is being followed up by others >> afterwards. "Ok, I did a mistake, will remember to check >> maintainer more closely before bumping a package that is new to >> me and I'm not familiar enough with to know it is in Herd X" >> would be a perfectly acceptable answer. >> > > Trivial python package gets bumped. OMG TEH END OF TAH WORLD. I'm not familiar with the package in question, so only observing on a general matter. > > Is that really a problem we should worry about? And do we need to > be this territorial? The maintainer is the one that is supposed to be responsible for the package, and even a trivial bump can affect the workflow e.g. with testing the package in overlay before bringing it into the tree. Maybe the maintainer knew of some issues with the new version that needed to be sorted out the bug, or even upcoming security issues where a person that is not the maintainer would not have been invited into a RESTRICTED bug for instance. So yes, that kind of behaviour can be damaging in a broader scope. > I'd appreciate it if we could get a more community thingy going I agree on this, although community thingy doesn't mean we always have to agree on issues, just that we need to respect each other enough to discuss them in a civil manner, and maybe even get along and have fun in the process. > > > So anyway. > > We don't need more rules, we need less complaining, and more > fixing. I still have over 500 open bugs, a lot of them simple > "dependency missing" bugs, and maintainers usually try to sit those > out. That's something worthy of a rant, not some random python > package ... bumping of which didn't cause any bugs ... etc.etc. > > ++ for more fixing, indeed. - -- Kristian Fiskerstrand Public PGP key 0xE3EDFAE3 at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJU5a9MAAoJEP7VAChXwav6MWcH/0SKRy20FIQE4vlsX4Q762s4 y3bFUvbg8nbEGFuyv4q1Sakd8G5FecWxyIvmK6w93Fhlp3HxzdXS/+aBc/01GBfX syWcH7AiOlsRRYPar9WvxBdIVxSweYizbCP8/XrhsVsYCJdcgRU0t/MtJpPiS8ro 4+ibsglp14E1F50lA23FUTGwbn9kojiH0I80Fk69CBdgmrY2tYLXRCBjMuVpl0QC 2SCZwj6ya2UnRtOONwuY6vXKsKpB37gNxJshEH0LnuWxqRu+tA/vDHoBxM6+d8/K m8ZfnnwgoJWKTVMck0rlhUTf+S3XI71JfXqDjjXuieAhxlS2d1kJqvkXv21jHeE= =JDnP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----