On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Fabian Groffen <grob...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> On 24-07-2012 14:52:43 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: >>>> This is a change that will break all new installs and expecting >>>> experienced gentoo users to read the handbook is simply a fantasy. >>> I don't see how it breaks. And secondly, if you do refuse to read the >>> manual, why don't you refuse to read elogs, news messages, and what >>> more? >> The difference is that news only communicates what is "news." Unless >> the manual contains a revision history it contains everything you >> already know, perhaps with a gem buried in there somewhere. >> >> This is the same reason why when something is wrong with Chromium you >> are supposed to post a 5-line patch to the bug and not a 300MB tarball >> with the patch applied, though at least in that case modern tools >> actually make finding the change fairly easy. >> >>> Do we really have to babysit people, because they think they're too >>> smart to check on the manual once again? Or when they notice things >>> seem different? Any search engine is your friend. >> There is the principle of not surprising people. This is a big change >> - a file central to the config of Gentoo that has been in one place >> for more than a decade, and is now moving. The change makes sense and >> should be embraced, but there is no harm in pointing it out. >> >> Sure, when my system breaks I'm pretty smart and can usually figure >> out how to fix it. That doesn't mean that I don't appreciate a >> heads-up before it breaks.
[snip] > +1 > > I might also add, I printed the manual years ago. I rarely look at the > online version. > > User opinion. Back to eating my apple pie. Another user opinion...it would be a significant improvement to the stage images and live discs to include the latest copy of the handbook, so that a network connection isn't required to access it. But that's probably a subject for a different thread. And I think that's at least three topics, now, this thread has touched on. -- :wq
