On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:49:40AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> 
> Because it's *REALLY* stupid and shows just how unprofessional we are
> when we have multiple groups doing the *EXACT* same thing using
> different policies and procedures and all pushing it as if it were
> *OFFICIAL* for the distribution.
> 
> I mean, we're really getting to the point where this is getting
> *COMPLETELY* ludicrous.  Instead of trying to work together, we have
> every yahoo with an @gentoo.org address who wants to do something
> *slightly* differently coming up with a new "project" for it.
> 

Once upon a time, all us yahoos with @gentoo.org addresses could start 
doing something new and interesting without getting chewed on.

I don't see you wanting to work together with anyone, I see you 
attacking this with no apparent justification provided except "we could 
have done this too"

> Why can't we simply try to work *together* on things instead of this
> whole "I'll start a new project" mentality that we have?  It seems that
> this *exact* sort of action is what causes frustrations between
> developers and serves to strengthen the territorial pissing contests
> that are going on daily all over Gentoo.  The reason why it seems Gentoo
> is fracturing is because of multiple people doing the exact same thing
> in slightly different ways.  Our users don't know what the hell is going
> on anymore.  Well, they're not alone... neither do I.
> 

Chris, I have all the respect in the world for releng and the work you 
do there. I know firsthand that releng is a very difficult task.

However, I am having great difficulty comprehending why you even 
bothered sending this mail. Are you trying to say releng was already 
doing this and nobody knew about it, or that releng should've been asked 
to approve this, or what? You're the only one getting territorial about 
it, I'm curious as to what the real issue is.

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