Stuart Herbert wrote:
On 9/20/06, Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, now it's gotten to the point where people are being sneaky and
underhanded
about this whole thing. Stuart (I believe) said that they had talked
to members
of releng about this, but the truth seems to be that Stuart talked
with rocket
and Xen support in stages and some random user associated with this
project
talked to plasmaroo about using catalyst for stage4 builds.
Could you be a little more polite about our users _please_? There was
a day when I was just "some random user", just as there was for you
and everyone else who is, or has been, a Gentoo dev.
By "some random user", I meant that plasmaroo had absolutely no idea that he was
associated with this Gentoo project that you announced this morning. It was not
an insult against our users.
Here's one thing I don't get. We have a project (Gentoo Seeds), which
is attracting interest and volunteers both from inside the Gentoo dev
ranks and (especially) outside. Granted, it's not a lot of people,
but interest is always welcome. Assuming we go on, and are successful
in establishing a sustainable project, that translates into extra
folks working on releases (and fresh eyes to boot). It might only be
one or two people, but that's still one or two people more than what
we had midnight last Sunday.
Given all the complaints from releng in general (and Chris in
particular) about there not being _enough_ folks working on releases,
isn't this a _great_ opportunity for releng to recruit some
additional, motivated folks to help solve that problem? Can't you see
that?
The help Releng needs is with *testing*. We've got building covered just fine.
How much of a dent in this opportunity do you think this afternoon's
outpouring has made? How many folks, reading what you've said (and
what you've ignored), will still feel motivated to consider maybe
moving on to releng in the future?
Could you have a think about that, and re-consider the unnecessary
hostility and unjustified accusations that you're filling this thread
with?
Unjustified accusations? Can you point out one "unjustified accusation" I've
made?
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Gentoo Linux Developer Installer Project
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