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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Joshua Jackson wrote:
>> However, as
>> Chris stated loudly, that this is something that falls directly in
>> line with Release Engineerings goal. Its not a top level project that
>> creates something entirely new. Its a extension of the release of
>> images that allow you to install a system.
>
> Sure, neither is releng creating something entirely new. They're
> deriving tarballs and CDs using ebuilds to build packages, so perhaps it
> should be a subproject of the base project. You can make the "not
> entirely new" argument for literally anything. Oh, and ebuilds wouldn't
> work without a package manager, so perhaps all of this should fall under
> the Portage project. But Portage wouldn't exist without people to work
> on it, so maybe Devrel should be in charge of everything.
>
>> Thus in my opinion it being a top level project is to use what someone
>> else said is ludicrous.
>> Treecleaners is another newer project that has
>> spawned and its a subproject of the QA team. Why can't the seeds group
>> be a part of the Releng group. The entire point of the teams is to
>> assist each other for a combined benefit. Being a top level project,
>> you are in essence saying that we want to do this on our own without
>> the help of a group that has been doing a less focused version of what
>> you are aiming to provide.
>
> What I am getting from this is that you do not think people can
> collaborate if they're not part of the same project. Being a project
> just says that a group of developers want to work toward a certain goal.
>
> I encourage everyone to read over
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0039.html and look at exactly
> what a project is.
>
> Thanks,
> Donnie
>
Oh lovely gross generalization time to use to prove points wrong
because there isn't any real argument against them *nods* I'm glad
we've reached this point of the conversation so quickly. It'll mean
that someone will be calling someone else a member of a certain
organization that kills all conversations. This is progressing nicely.

I'm not going to be bothered to reply to the latter as it apparently
went spacey...
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