Taylor, Can you point out which objections you are agreed exactly?
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:31 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Apologies for the auto correct. > > Please sub "Niclas" for "Nicolas". > > -Taylor > > > On May 4, 2017, at 8:43 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Nicolas, > > > > I understand and appreciate your passion, but would respectfully ask > that you step down your tone a little bit. Craig and John have both taken > time to review the release candidate (which you should be appreciative of > -- getting IPMC members to review a release can be difficult). In my > opinion their reviews bring up some valid points that need to be considered. > > > > Weex, by its nature, has a complicated codebase with respect to > licensing and building from source. It is a far cry from a java project > with a Pom and a a "src" directory. It pulls in a lot of different code > that needs to be considered and evaluated. Going forward the (P)PMC will > need to understand that and as a TLP will need to be able to address issues > accordingly. > > > > What may seem like "Incubator hazing" right now, I would argue, is an > exercise in making sure the podling has what it takes to operate as a fully > functional TLP. No two podlings are the same, and some face certain burdens > that others do not. > > > > For now can we try to turn the thread toward a more constructive path > that benefits both the podling and the Incubator? > > > > For what it's worth, I agree with some (not all) of the objections that > have been raised. So I would be a -1 as well. > > > > -Taylor > > > > > > > >> On May 4, 2017, at 3:02 AM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: > >> > >> Sorry, but if you don't know the background on that file, then perhaps > you > >> think I am "not civil"... The fact is that NOTICE file doesn't require > any > >> inclusion of what the project depends on, since they are not bundled, > but > >> will be downloaded during build. In a previous round, we were told to > take > >> it out of NOTICE for that reason (not bundled) and I argued that we > should > >> keep it in to make it more reasonable for downstreams to get an idea of > >> what a binary distro will actually contain. This file was the > compromise of > >> providing such details to downstream. > >> > >> Now you say, "Uhhh, it is unclear..." when in reality it would be even > more > >> unclear if we left it out, as some people on this very list pushed for > on a > >> previous RC. > >> > >> So, yes, I get pissed off as well. The incubator over time is getting > more > >> and more intolerant at podling's first release, and I think it is the > wrong > >> way to go. It is disheartening... truly... > >> > >> > >> Niclas > >> > >>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm going to call foul on this one. > >>> > >>> If you cannot be civil, then leave the discussion to others. > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> > >>>> On May 3, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> BUT ALSO figuring out what to start looking for. For fak sake, > >>>> man.... Get a grip on reality! > >>> > >>> Craig L Russell > >>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation > >>> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > >> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- sospartan Phone:13588488290 HangZhou
