Nicolas, I understand and appreciate your passion, but would respectfully ask that you step down your tone a little bit. Craig and John have both taken time to review the release candidate (which you should be appreciative of -- getting IPMC members to review a release can be difficult). In my opinion their reviews bring up some valid points that need to be considered.
Weex, by its nature, has a complicated codebase with respect to licensing and building from source. It is a far cry from a java project with a Pom and a a "src" directory. It pulls in a lot of different code that needs to be considered and evaluated. Going forward the (P)PMC will need to understand that and as a TLP will need to be able to address issues accordingly. What may seem like "Incubator hazing" right now, I would argue, is an exercise in making sure the podling has what it takes to operate as a fully functional TLP. No two podlings are the same, and some face certain burdens that others do not. For now can we try to turn the thread toward a more constructive path that benefits both the podling and the Incubator? For what it's worth, I agree with some (not all) of the objections that have been raised. So I would be a -1 as well. -Taylor > On May 4, 2017, at 3:02 AM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: > > Sorry, but if you don't know the background on that file, then perhaps you > think I am "not civil"... The fact is that NOTICE file doesn't require any > inclusion of what the project depends on, since they are not bundled, but > will be downloaded during build. In a previous round, we were told to take > it out of NOTICE for that reason (not bundled) and I argued that we should > keep it in to make it more reasonable for downstreams to get an idea of > what a binary distro will actually contain. This file was the compromise of > providing such details to downstream. > > Now you say, "Uhhh, it is unclear..." when in reality it would be even more > unclear if we left it out, as some people on this very list pushed for on a > previous RC. > > So, yes, I get pissed off as well. The incubator over time is getting more > and more intolerant at podling's first release, and I think it is the wrong > way to go. It is disheartening... truly... > > > Niclas > >> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'm going to call foul on this one. >> >> If you cannot be civil, then leave the discussion to others. >> >> Craig >> >>> On May 3, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: >>> >>> BUT ALSO figuring out what to start looking for. For fak sake, >>> man.... Get a grip on reality! >> >> Craig L Russell >> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation >> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
