Apologies for the auto correct. Please sub "Niclas" for "Nicolas".
-Taylor > On May 4, 2017, at 8:43 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Nicolas, > > I understand and appreciate your passion, but would respectfully ask that you > step down your tone a little bit. Craig and John have both taken time to > review the release candidate (which you should be appreciative of -- getting > IPMC members to review a release can be difficult). In my opinion their > reviews bring up some valid points that need to be considered. > > Weex, by its nature, has a complicated codebase with respect to licensing and > building from source. It is a far cry from a java project with a Pom and a a > "src" directory. It pulls in a lot of different code that needs to be > considered and evaluated. Going forward the (P)PMC will need to understand > that and as a TLP will need to be able to address issues accordingly. > > What may seem like "Incubator hazing" right now, I would argue, is an > exercise in making sure the podling has what it takes to operate as a fully > functional TLP. No two podlings are the same, and some face certain burdens > that others do not. > > For now can we try to turn the thread toward a more constructive path that > benefits both the podling and the Incubator? > > For what it's worth, I agree with some (not all) of the objections that have > been raised. So I would be a -1 as well. > > -Taylor > > > >> On May 4, 2017, at 3:02 AM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: >> >> Sorry, but if you don't know the background on that file, then perhaps you >> think I am "not civil"... The fact is that NOTICE file doesn't require any >> inclusion of what the project depends on, since they are not bundled, but >> will be downloaded during build. In a previous round, we were told to take >> it out of NOTICE for that reason (not bundled) and I argued that we should >> keep it in to make it more reasonable for downstreams to get an idea of >> what a binary distro will actually contain. This file was the compromise of >> providing such details to downstream. >> >> Now you say, "Uhhh, it is unclear..." when in reality it would be even more >> unclear if we left it out, as some people on this very list pushed for on a >> previous RC. >> >> So, yes, I get pissed off as well. The incubator over time is getting more >> and more intolerant at podling's first release, and I think it is the wrong >> way to go. It is disheartening... truly... >> >> >> Niclas >> >>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm going to call foul on this one. >>> >>> If you cannot be civil, then leave the discussion to others. >>> >>> Craig >>> >>>> On May 3, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> BUT ALSO figuring out what to start looking for. For fak sake, >>>> man.... Get a grip on reality! >>> >>> Craig L Russell >>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation >>> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer >> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org