On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:45 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:30 PM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:10 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > I'm +0.5 for this right now. There's some challenges I would like to see >> > answered to be able to move forward on this. >> > >> > - Who controls the ACLs? I have some strong opinions of the ACL. >> > Specifically, when the podling joins the incubator, I expect that the >> > "OpenWhisk" organization be handed over to us, and all non-IPMC members >> are >> > removed. Once we receive ICLAs members are granted access back. Or the >> > equivalent - we create a new "ApacheOpenWhisk" organization. >> > >> > - All committers who are in the "incubator" group are granted write >> access >> > to OpenWhisk >> >> I have strong opinions on this subject too, and they don't match >> yours. It happens. :-) >> > > And I honestly wouldn't want them to match. > > In my opinion, for this to happen, we need to finish up the LDAP work, > allowing each podling to be given a separate permission set. I would > generally prefer that approach.
Cool. >> As one of the member of the IPMC, I would very much like to see >> podlings set up *EXACTLY* like PMCs, albeit with oversight by mentors. >> That means non-IPMC members are NOT removed, and committers in the >> "incubator" group are NOT added, only mentors. >> > > I'm a bit iffy here. IMHO, we cannot leave existing accounts in place on > the organization, as we won't have ICLAs on file (except for a few who > already exist I bet). What I don't want to see is the PPMC, for non-IPMC > members, be given the ability to grant committer privileges to the repo > without having an ICLA on file. Good point. - Sam Ruby >> That being said, as the person who volunteered to set up LDAP for >> podlings, I will set aside my preference in favor of the consensus of >> the IPMC. Logistically, however, giving every member of the incubator >> group write access to an existing GitHub repository would be a >> nightmare. Granting mentors (a much smaller set) would be a smaller >> set. >> >> > - the ASF still needs to maintain records of the revision history. I >> would >> > like to understand the plan to provide this history. >> >> Here's an example: >> >> https://matt.apache.org/pushlogs.html?repo=whimsy >> >> > I'm not very comfortable with a policy that allows podlings to do things >> > they can't do as TLPs. This is setting up for major delays in >> graduation. >> >> The goal, for quite some time now, has been to resolve GitHub as a >> Master one way or another. It is time to do so. If the conclusion is >> that GitHub as a Master is not to be, OpenWhisk will need to be >> migrated at that time. Until then, there is no reason to migrate it >> only to potentially migrate it back. >> >> > John >> >> - Sam Ruby >> >> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:23 PM Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now >> has >> >> requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra >> >> Admin >> >> has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. >> >> >> >> I ask now: >> >> >> >> 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? >> >> 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? >> >> >> >> I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
