+1 > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 00:46 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Can we be specific about what info is needed, or what further details > > specifically, before going into a vote for acceptance of the proposal? > My > > concern is that each question we answer is answered by further > questions to > > answer. Maybe we could do a phone conference with the NetBeans > > infrastructure side together with the Apache infrastructure side. > Maybe we > > can work through the infrastructure challenges during incubation. > > > > Generally speaking, Apache would prefer to slow things down and use a > mailing list, rather than to have a phone conference. The email is > documented for everybody to review, to participate, and to record for > future examination. A phone conference probably wouldn't resolve many > questions/concerns anyway, simply because much of that comes from > considered thought. A phone call is "THINK NOW. RESPOND. OOPS. MISSED > YOUR > CHANCE." ... Mailing lists give people time to think. > > There is no rush, no dates, no deadlines at the ASF. It may take longer > via > mailing lists, but it means that the larger community can be involved, > can > review, and can be archived. > > If one question turns into three ... well, that is deliberation. As > David > noted else-thread, we rarely get such a large, well-established > community > arriving at the Incubator. That necessitates a bit more inquiry than > most > other entrants receive. Layers of the onion get peeled, and new > questions > arrive. More layers unpeeled ... > > And to point to the elephant in the room: I bet there are people > concerned > given the recent misadventures of AOO [and Oracle's donations of these > two > projects]. Personally, I think it is hogwash, and don't believe any > concern > applies here, as the communities and the userbase are very different. > BUT, > temporally, there is a conflation of the donations of these two > projects. I > suspect that will cause a few people to slow down and ask more > questions. > > Cheers, > -g
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