Daniel and Jake,

I created the list in the resolution and I'm the one of left out some
mentors. That my fault. I wrongly assumed that some mentors were just there
to be mentors and had no intention of staying with the project. I did share
the resolution before we started voting on the Usergrid dev list and nobody
brought up any issue with the list.

I don't think it is too late to add back anybody that I left out before we
start the IPMC vote. What do you think?

Dave


On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:31 PM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 08/07/2015 06:44 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> > I believe the reasoning is that some mentors want to move forward with
> the
> > Usergrid TLP, while others were around to help with incubation only.  Its
> > been typical for a podling to not graduate with all mentors in toe.
> >
> > John
> Right, but why was it not discussed? Why were these mentors not asked
> _at all_?
> From looking at the initial vote, it kind of seems like the new PMC was
> single-handedly cherry-picked without any previous discussion, and that
> bothers me.
>
> If they don't want to be a part of the PMC, that's fine, but there
> should at least be a discussion on who should be on the PMC. I don't see
> any such discussion, nor do I see (or hear) them saying they are fine
> with it or don't want to be a part of the PMC.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:55 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Why are certain mentors left out of this resolution while others are put
> >> on the new PMC without any discussion anywhere about this?
> >> I'd very much like an answer or a change to the resolution text.
> >>
> >> With regards,
> >> Daniel.
> >>
> >> On 2015-08-07 17:19, Dave wrote:
> >>> The Usergrid podling has voted to proceed with graduation. Below is the
> >>> proposed TLP resolution for your review. I will be calling for an IPMC
> >>> gradation vote on this shortly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Apache Usergrid top-level project resolution:
> >>>
> >>>         WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>>         interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>         Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>         Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>>         open-source software related to the Usergrid BaaS software,
> >>>         for distribution at no charge to the public.
> >>>
> >>>         NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>         Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Usergrid Project",
> >>>         be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>>         Foundation; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>         RESOLVED, that the Apache Usergrid Project be and hereby is
> >>>         responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
> >>>         software related to the Usergrid BaaS software; and be it
> further
> >>>
> >>>         RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Usergrid" be and
> >>>         hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> >>>         the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> >>>         Apache Usergrid Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> >>>         management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> >>>         of the Apache Usegrid Project; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>         RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>         hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>         Apache Usegrid Project:
> >>>
> >>>             * Tim Anglade      <timangl...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Askhat Asanaliev <aasanal...@apache.org>
> >>>             * John D. Ament    <johndam...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Ed Anuff         <edan...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Furkan Bıçak     <fbi...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Ryan Bridges     <ry...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Scott Ganyo      <scottga...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Sungju Jin       <sun...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Dave Johnson     <snoopd...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Alex Karasulu    <akaras...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Salih Kardan     <skar...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Shaozhuang Liu   <st...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Nate McCall      <zzn...@apache.org>
> >>>             * John Mcgibbney   <lewi...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Alex Muramoto    <amuram...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Todd Nine        <toddn...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Luciano Resende  <lrese...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Yiğit Şaplı      <yig...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Rod Simpson      <rockers...@apache.org>
> >>>             * Jeff West        <jeffreyaw...@apache.org>
> >>>
> >>>         NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Todd Nine
> >>>         be appointed to the office of Vice President, Usergrid, to
> serve
> >>>         in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
> >>>         Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> >>>         resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> >>>         a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>         RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Usergrid Project be and
> hereby
> >>>         is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>>         encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>>         Usergrid Project; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>         RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Usergrid Project be and
> hereby
> >>>         is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >>>         Incubator Usegrid podling; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>         RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
> >>>         Incubator Usergrid podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >>>         PMC are hereafter discharged.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >>> From: Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com>
> >>> Date: Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:16 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Usergrid from the incubator
> >>> To: <d...@usergrid.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> +1 Dave
> >>> +1 Rod
> >>> +1 Ed
> >>> +1 Sungju
> >>> +1 Todd
> >>> +1 John
> >>> +1 Shawn
> >>> +1 Alex M
> >>> +1 Nate
> >>> +1 Jeff
> >>> +1 Alex K
> >>> +1 George
> >>> +1 Jason
> >>>
> >>> And the vote passes!  On to the incubator.
> >>>
> >>
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