On 08/07/2015 06:44 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> I believe the reasoning is that some mentors want to move forward with the
> Usergrid TLP, while others were around to help with incubation only.  Its
> been typical for a podling to not graduate with all mentors in toe.
> 
> John
Right, but why was it not discussed? Why were these mentors not asked
_at all_?
>From looking at the initial vote, it kind of seems like the new PMC was
single-handedly cherry-picked without any previous discussion, and that
bothers me.

If they don't want to be a part of the PMC, that's fine, but there
should at least be a discussion on who should be on the PMC. I don't see
any such discussion, nor do I see (or hear) them saying they are fine
with it or don't want to be a part of the PMC.

With regards,
Daniel.

> 
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:55 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Why are certain mentors left out of this resolution while others are put
>> on the new PMC without any discussion anywhere about this?
>> I'd very much like an answer or a change to the resolution text.
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
>> On 2015-08-07 17:19, Dave wrote:
>>> The Usergrid podling has voted to proceed with graduation. Below is the
>>> proposed TLP resolution for your review. I will be calling for an IPMC
>>> gradation vote on this shortly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Apache Usergrid top-level project resolution:
>>>
>>>         WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>         interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>         Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>         Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>         open-source software related to the Usergrid BaaS software,
>>>         for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>
>>>         NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>         Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Usergrid Project",
>>>         be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>         Foundation; and be it further
>>>
>>>         RESOLVED, that the Apache Usergrid Project be and hereby is
>>>         responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
>>>         software related to the Usergrid BaaS software; and be it further
>>>
>>>         RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Usergrid" be and
>>>         hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
>>>         the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>>>         Apache Usergrid Project, and to have primary responsibility for
>>>         management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>>>         of the Apache Usegrid Project; and be it further
>>>
>>>         RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>         hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>         Apache Usegrid Project:
>>>
>>>             * Tim Anglade      <timangl...@apache.org>
>>>             * Askhat Asanaliev <aasanal...@apache.org>
>>>             * John D. Ament    <johndam...@apache.org>
>>>             * Ed Anuff         <edan...@apache.org>
>>>             * Furkan Bıçak     <fbi...@apache.org>
>>>             * Ryan Bridges     <ry...@apache.org>
>>>             * Scott Ganyo      <scottga...@apache.org>
>>>             * Sungju Jin       <sun...@apache.org>
>>>             * Dave Johnson     <snoopd...@apache.org>
>>>             * Alex Karasulu    <akaras...@apache.org>
>>>             * Salih Kardan     <skar...@apache.org>
>>>             * Shaozhuang Liu   <st...@apache.org>
>>>             * Nate McCall      <zzn...@apache.org>
>>>             * John Mcgibbney   <lewi...@apache.org>
>>>             * Alex Muramoto    <amuram...@apache.org>
>>>             * Todd Nine        <toddn...@apache.org>
>>>             * Luciano Resende  <lrese...@apache.org>
>>>             * Yiğit Şaplı      <yig...@apache.org>
>>>             * Rod Simpson      <rockers...@apache.org>
>>>             * Jeff West        <jeffreyaw...@apache.org>
>>>
>>>         NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Todd Nine
>>>         be appointed to the office of Vice President, Usergrid, to serve
>>>         in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
>>>         Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>>>         resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
>>>         a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>
>>>         RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Usergrid Project be and hereby
>>>         is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>         encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>         Usergrid Project; and be it further
>>>
>>>         RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Usergrid Project be and hereby
>>>         is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>         Incubator Usegrid podling; and be it further
>>>
>>>         RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
>>>         Incubator Usergrid podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>         PMC are hereafter discharged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Usergrid from the incubator
>>> To: <d...@usergrid.incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 Dave
>>> +1 Rod
>>> +1 Ed
>>> +1 Sungju
>>> +1 Todd
>>> +1 John
>>> +1 Shawn
>>> +1 Alex M
>>> +1 Nate
>>> +1 Jeff
>>> +1 Alex K
>>> +1 George
>>> +1 Jason
>>>
>>> And the vote passes!  On to the incubator.
>>>
>>
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