On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd like to look at this through a lens of failure analysis. How do > podlings fail? I see two main patterns. > > 1. Failure to build a community. These are the podlings that we find > adrift in space with the lights on but no one home on the mailing > list. > > 2. Failure to build an _Apache_ community. These are the podlings that > JimJag was referring to in another thread; they are here, perhaps, for > the brand, perhaps launched/dumped here by a commercial enterprise. > They have people, they make releases, but there's an empty resonant > cavity where the Apache Way is supposed to be. > > We observe missing mentors in both cases, but I claim that it's only a > serious problem in the second case. In the first case, the problem > isn't lack of supervision. > > Here is where the 'Mentors in the Project' (whether directly reporting > to the board or not) leaps up and looks like a great idea to me. The > whole goal of incubation is to run an Apache project on training > wheels. How does an Apache project run? WIth a chair and PMC members > supervising it and _reporting to the board_. The proposal, as I see > it, is to tell the champion and other mentors that they, and not the > entire IPMC in some nebulous fashion, are the PMC in the PPMC. By the > time the podling graduates, their need to have expanded themselves to > a larger group. > > The board may choose to keep the IPMC around to organize and support > this process. The board may choose to continue to ask the IPMC to add > an extra layer of supervision. But the heart of the proposal is to > insist that every podling be nucleated around at least three people > who have the experience to operate as a PMC and have volunteered for > the responsibility.
I really like what you're saying. How can we make it a reality? Petition the board? Thanks, Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
