On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> wrote: >> >>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> 1. get rid of IPMC altogether and move to the pTLP model >> >> This is effectively an IPMC reboot. I don’t really see anything >> substantially different. > > At this point, I'm convinced this is the only fruitful path forward, > the rest is a shell game with responsibility. See the other thread. > >>> 3. patch the current process with starting to drop the mentors from >>> the project who don't sign off. This will essentially serve >>> as a heartbeat for mentors (now, in my opinion it'll quickly >>> deteriorate into mindless tick-offs -- but at least it does not harm). >> >> How is it that a mentor became an IPMC member and do such an unethical thing >> such as a mindless tick-off? > > We're talking about human being here. The one who never > ever cut corners in his life can cast the first stone. I think that you misunderstood my rhetorical question. It is my experience/understanding that if a mentor makes an effort to review reports/releases then this mentor is actually doing a good job at it. It is my experience/understanding that the overwhelming problem is that mentors simply go MIA and do nothing at all. I am in favor of #3 since it holds mentors accountable. #1 is simply a washing of our hands and pawning the problem off on the board simple because some of us are unwilling to do uncomfortable things. Regards, Alan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org