Ross, this makes sense. I'll follow up today and restart the vote next week if the feedback is appropriate.
Thanks, Roman. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > That's all good and I'm certainly not suggesting it’s the wrong thing to do > (nor do I believe that was Bertrands opinion - he did say "for now"). > > It's just that it should be a decision of the podling, not the IPMC. If the > podling doesn't agree then the IPMC might decide to go ahead anyway. > > Thanks, for the background. > > In answer to your question about what the email states, I suggest something > like this: > > HI NPandy folks, > > Is there any real chance of this podling building momentum and becoming a > viable Apache project? > > XXX and YYY, your mentors, have indicated to the IPMC that they believe this > is unlikely to happen and have recommended retirement of the podling. > > Unless there is a compelling reason not to do this then I (as IMPC chair) > will action this recommendation. If there is a strong case then nows the > chance to make it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: shaposh...@gmail.com [mailto:shaposh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roman > Shaposhnik > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:01 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: >> Mentors should raise the issue with the podling. If the mentors are >> absent then maybe the problem doesn't lie with the podling but with our >> handling of it. > > The only active mentors left on the project seem to be of an opinion that > retiring is the best option at this point. I will let them comment > themselves, so I don't have to put words in their mouths, though. > >> A VOTE should be a formality used on the few occasions where our >> bye-laws require them. It certainly should not, IMHO, be a stick to >> wave in front of a struggling podling community (which I appreciate is >> not the intention but it does look that way). > > The community was given plenty of chances and plenty of help was provided to > it (see my summary at the beginning of the thread). The community has between > 1-2 active mentor (Konstantin/Brett) . The problem is that it doesn't have > anything else. > > This is actually part of the reason I don't see a point of sending email to > their list, until we have something concrete we can communicate to them. > > That said -- emails are cheap, but let me ask you this, what should this > email state? What should it ask? > > Thanks, > Roman. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org