On Friday, December 12, 2014, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let's cancel this vote and have at least Cos send them a note saying "many
> of us in the IPMC think you should retire" (but more nicely/PC).  Give them
> 72 hours to provide feedback.

+1 no need to rush something serious as this.

rgds
jan i.


ps. In general I am against retiring as such, we should have a play place
like LABS but outside (or before) incubator where such projects can stay.

>
> John
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:12PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> > > See my overlapping mail. I don’t think anyone is questioning your
> > > recommendation. Just that an explicit statement to the community is
> >
> > I wasn't thinking that, Ross :) Just added a data point from mentor's
> > angle.
> > While I am not objecting a value of final notice from IPMC chair, it is
> > that
> > there was a number of in-advance warnings to provide enough cue.
> >
> > Cos
> >
> > > necessary. In my experience this sometimes makes things happen - when
> it
> > > does it usually starts with "really? I didn't realize it was that bad.
> > How
> > > can I help"
> > >
> > > To be fair this often comes to nothing, but it's a courtesy to the
> > > community. Remember not everyone reads general@ and those that do
> often
> > get
> > > drowned in the noise.
> > >
> > > Ross
> > >
> > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> > > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Konstantin Boudnik [mailto:c...@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:06 PM
> > > To: general@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
> > >
> > > Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed
> > npanday-dev@ with the reminder about missing report.
> > >
> > > And I have raised the flag about project's issues on the general@
> > before. As far as I can tell this whole discussion about NPanday is going
> > on for about a year now (by very modest estimations).
> > >
> > > So as a project's mentor, I am casting my
> > >  +1 (binding)
> > > on this [VOTE].
> > >
> > >   Cos
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:02AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> > > > > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday
> > > > > poddling...
> > > >
> > > > -1 for now.
> > > >
> > > > Unless I missed something I don't see any mention of this on the
> > > > NPanday mailing list at
> > > >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/201412.
> > > > mbox/browser
> > > >
> > > > Although activity is minimal, IMO a warning is needed there before
> > > > voting on retirement.
> > > >
> > > > -Bertrand
> > > >
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