Seriously, give me a break. This has been discussed ad naseum - It's a quick simple measure to see if one of the stated requirements for mentors (reading the monthly report, and *signing that you read it*) has been fulfilled. It means nothing more than that. I didn't say good. I didn't say bad. You did.
Statistics are simply that - statistics. Meaning is derived from them in multiple ways. You showing up on this list simply means at one point over the past 3-4 years, you thought that putting your name on one of those wiki pages was important enough to do so, 14 times. Anyone that would like to let their coding/scripting do the talking, I invite you to. Until then, feel free to send more email messages debating this message and the follow on reply that I won't be sending, and any further messages to yourself and others after that. -----Original Message----- From: "rgard...@opendirective.com" <rgard...@opendirective.com> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:05 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: RE: Mentors heartbeat >Surely we are not going to start counting signing off on a report as >indicative of good/bad mentoring? > >What's important is whether podlings are getting what they need from >their mentors. Besides, someone who has actively mentored one new >podling through initial setup in a first month will have one "tick" while >someone else who has done little more than sign off on reports for the >years will have many "ticks". > >Case in point, I've not actively mentored a project for at least a couple >of years (I just signed up to one this month), yet according to this >measure I am one of the more active mentors. > >Lets not demean the work good new mentors are doing by counting a few >characters on a wiki page. > >Note, I'm not saying rolling to assist the incubator and mentors is a bad >thing. I'm saying this specific example is a bad thing. > >Sent from my Windows Phone > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> >Sent: ?9/?3/?2014 10:25 PM >To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> >Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat > >These are the "signed off" per month mentors per podling over >the last 3 years. So it measures how many times a mentor has >signed off (summed across all podlings) during that time span. > >Cheers, >Chris > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >Chief Architect >Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org> >Reply-To: <general@incubator.apache.org> >Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 10:11 PM >To: <general@incubator.apache.org> >Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat > >>Arguably, the number of mentored project doesn't reflect "the activity" >>per >>se. Unless I am missing something. >> >>Cos >> >>On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 04:46AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: >>> Guys, +1 to eventually doing this with JSON and YAML. The big problem >>> I see is curation (someone has to maintain it). Right now board reports >>> and the wiki are what's used to make the report, so feel free to use my >>> scripts for now until those are changed over. For example, I just ran >>>them >>> right now (with some major pythonic updates to sniff mentors, and to >>> map name to committer ID, and updating years and months to current and >>> here's what I get): >>> >>> 29 phunt >>> 24 tomwhite >>> 24 rvs >>> 24 mattmann >>> 23 cdouglas >>> 20 hsaputra >>> 18 bdelacretaz >>> 18 arvind >>> 16 adc >>> 14 smarru >>> 14 rgardler >>> 14 olamy >>> 14 gates >>> 13 jfarrell >>> 12 kevan >>> 11 tdunning >>> 11 jim >>> 11 grobmeier >>> 11 ddas >>> 10 omalley >>> 9 mfranklin >>> 8 wave >>> 8 lresende >>> 8 jbonofre >>> 8 ate >>> 7 twilliams >>> 7 rfrovarp >>> 7 ke4qqq >>> 7 jukka >>> 6 jzb >>> 6 acmurthy >>> 5 struberg >>> 5 nslater >>> 5 marrs >>> 5 lewismc >>> 5 greddin >>> 5 bodewig >>> 4 thorsten >>> 4 mahadev >>> 4 joes >>> 4 jghoman >>> 4 gsingers >>> 4 fmui >>> 3 upayavira >>> 3 tommaso >>> 3 stevenn >>> 3 ssc >>> 3 snoopdave >>> 3 nick >>> 3 marvin >>> 3 hwright >>> 3 gstein >>> 3 gianugo >>> 3 chipchilders >>> 3 benh >>> 3 apurtell >>> 2 todd >>> 2 larsh >>> 2 jochen >>> 2 jmclean >>> 2 dkulp >>> 2 dennisl >>> 2 dashorst >>> 2 cutting >>> 2 antelder >>> 1 yegor >>> 1 wrowe >>> 1 wavw >>> 1 stack >>> 1 simonetripodi >>> 1 robweir >>> 1 rmannibucau >>> 1 rfeng >>> 1 rbircher >>> 1 nandana >>> 1 mnour >>> 1 jvermillard >>> 1 fchrist >>> 1 enis >>> 1 elecharny >>> 1 cos >>> 1 coheigea >>> 1 brett >>> 1 bmargulies >>> 1 berndf >>> 1 asavory >>> 1 ant >>> 1 akarasulu >>> 1 ahart >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Chief Architect >>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Alan D. Cabrera" <l...@toolazydogs.com> >>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> >>> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:54 AM >>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> >>> Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat >>> >>> > >>> >On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> >>> >wrote: >>> > >>> >>>> I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. >>> >> >>> >> What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having the board >>> >>report in machine readable formats provides the same advantages as >>>that >>> >>afforded incubator reports. >>> > >>> >If these machine readable reports work out, I see no reason why they >>> >would not, then I predict an explosion of tool driven processes, e.g. >>> >release voting, podling acceptance and graduation votes, etc. >>> > >>> > >>> >Regards, >>> >Alan >>> > >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
