Sorry this went out accidentally ...

I'm going to pull out as a mentor and as a committer.

Thanks,
Alex


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Karasulu <akaras...@apache.org> wrote:

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> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
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>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Lieven Govaerts <lieven.govae...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >  and that the incubator
>> > promotes this as 'the right thing to do' (which I didn''t know until
>> > now).
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>> Because it's NOT true. The right thing to do is what the
>> podling determines; the whole problem was with uncontrolled
>> piling on of completely unqualified people (for anyone who cared
>> to read the entire thread), not *just* with additional committers being
>> added to the proposal.
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>> It was the *method* that was the issue, not the actual
>> act of "adding" committers per se.
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>> From Roy in
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/%3c55d28a90-8584-4410-b38c-e884f7926...@gbiv.com%3e
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>>   There is nothing wrong with the proposer asking for and accepting
>>   additional committers from the wide world of ASF.  I did that for
>>   Jackrabbit, for example, specifically because I wanted a lot of
>>   experienced ASF folks to help mentor the project (even though I was
>>   the only "official" Mentor).  However, that is significantly different
>>   from any wiki reader being able to add themselves just because they
>>   (or their boss) thinks it might be worth getting in on the ground
>>   floor of a project.
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>> IMO, the proposal always implies asking for help. That is, when
>> I see a proposal proposed, I expect that the person is looking
>> for feedback to their proposal, and would take "Great idea; I'd
>> love to help. Could I be added as a committer?" as indication
>> of someone who wants to help and can be added in a very low-risk
>> fashion. The problem is that my world-view didn't jive w/ Alex
>> nor Dave.
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> Best Regards,
> -- Alex
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-- Alex

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