Hi Guys,
On 1/25/13 10:29 AM, "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: [...snip...] >>> >> Sorry, that's really what I meant: to think about that file as to >>whether it >> can do any harm and how to determine its safety. I haven't looked at >>the >> file, but it sounds like you know it can do harm. > >Depends on what you mean by 'harm'. A model could exhibit hostile >behavior, intentionally giving wrong or biased answers for certain >inputs. Some people would call that 'harm'. Others would focus on >malware, in which case having the model be a big file of numbers that >gets turned into a big array would indeed be defined as harmless. So, this is all conjecture. I don't think either of us are qualified Benson to comment or even remotely suggest the harmful nature, validity, etc., of a medical model, or set of them developed by institutions who have accepted the risk (well beyond the ASF's willing accepted risk, etc., for *software*) of leveraging the model for scientific study and prediction. Those institutions go as high up as the National Institutes of Health, the Department of Health and Human Services, etc., etc. Here's what it boils down to -- I get Roy's point, but does everyone else get Roy's point? Roy isn't going to *sanction* wearing big ASF hat the inclusion of things that the ASF isn't willing to accept risk on. The good news? The ASF is NOT a top down organization it's a bottom up one with minimal centralized oversight. That being said there's a subtle hint Roy's text on record that describes what *individuals* as part of a PMC (who are the ones that *release* the software) are, and are not able to do, and what risk they are and are not able to (implied) take on, and perform, within their community. This isn't the ASF coming top down with a policy (good luck every getting one) -- but it's something that has happened in the past with respect to binary "convenience" bits that even people like Roy say can go on the server. So, why don't we let this sit for a bit, and cTAKES community (and mentors, please speak up) if we are still wanting to proceed down this path, then let's do so, and I think we're going to be OK. See post from Jukka Zitting and I on cTAKES lists: http://s.apache.org/5aZ Cheers, Chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
