Hi Nick, I'm top posting because it is clear to me what is happening here:
(1) The Title of the AOO blog is "Apache OpenOffice (Incubating)" (2) The Title of various blog entries includes the phrase "Apache OpenOffice", but not the phrase "Apache OpenOffice (incubating)". I have the karma and will fix these blog entry titles except for the Japanese one, but I'm going to wait 24 hours. Regards, Dave On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > @Nick, > > Ross offered to come to the AOOi PPMC to fix it. I'm not clear what the PPMC > has to do with it. > > Specifically, @TheASF is not of AOOi PPMC origin. The question is, who is > expected to do something about that and how is it to be communicated to them? > Someone else is responsible for those tweets and their aggregation on the > ASF home page. > > Also, you refer to a blog post by Rob Weir on his own site. It is true that > Rob Weir is a member of the AOOi PPMC, but that blog site is not a product of > the AOOi PPMC and its aggregation into Roller is no different than the > aggregation of any Apache committer posts that a committer arranges to > include in the feed picked-up by Roller. (I believe the PPMC did authorize > that "Get it Here" image and link to be used by sites that wanted to promote > the availability of the software. If there should have been greater > formality before doing that, there are places to raise that specific problem.) > > My concern is how to determine what the infractions are that someone can do > something about and also being clear who that someone is expected to be. The > general claim just has us running around like headless chickens over on > ooo-dev. > > - Dennis > > PS: I'm now in time-penalty and will check back anon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Kew [mailto:n...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 11:38 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: References to "Apache OpenOffice" > > > On 23 Jun 2012, at 18:48, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> Nick, the AOOi project does not write those tweets from @TheASF and they are >> not under AOOi control. >> >> Are these and blog text occurrences the ones that attracted your attention >> or are there others? >> >> If you follow the links to the referenced blog posts you will see that the >> full term is used in the blog title. E.g., >> <https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/5_million_downloads_of_apache>. > > So what appears on www.apache.org doesn't matter? > > Nor what appears on planet.apache.org, featuring the article that first > struck me > as using the name in a way I wouldn't expect when I read it in my feed reader: > http://www.robweir.com/blog/2012/06/pache-openoffice-34-downloads.html > >> Would it have been sufficient to add it in the title of the individual post, >> and in the first mention in the opening paragraph? > > I should think so, but that's just me! > >> How many times do you require that the qualifier be used to satisfy the >> requirement for identifying incubation as the origin of a release, an >> announcement, etc? > > If the guidelines are unclear then maybe they need reviewing? > I was just pointing out usage that seems at odds with my understanding > of the incubator rules. > > If a blog gets aggregated, then readers will see what appears in their > aggregator, as I did. That's without the context of the page title in your > link! > > -- > Nick Kew > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org