On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Scott Wilson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3 Feb 2012, at 23:17, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A number of people are asking for the incubator PMC to take a deep
>>>> breath and allow room to digest and contemplate the various issues
>>>> that have led to a bumper crop of email. These are complex questions,
>>>> and even if we could avoid intemperate exchanges, there is still going
>>>> to be a lot to read and think about.
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> I'm a committer on 3 incubator projects, so I have quite a lot of 
>>> ASF-related email already. I don't understand most of the points being 
>>> discussed on the general list as I don't really have time to read and make 
>>> sense of it all.
>>> 
>>> The incubator doesn't feel particularly broken and in need of fixing at my 
>>> level of engagement, so most of the tone of the conversation does little 
>>> other than give me a nagging worry that I'm missing something important 
>>> that might affect the projects I work on.
>>> 
>>> I expect many more on this list will just filter these discussions out and 
>>> trust everyone concerned to do whats sensible.
>>> 
>>> So, slow down please, there's no need to rush.
>> 
>> +1. Please consider the movement of least change and impact on all podlings. 
>> Wild proposals like changing all urls from "incubator.apache.org" to 
>> "incubation.apache.org" are only going to cause confusion and difficulties 
>> in the various communities. Yes, I know we can build in redirection, but to 
>> many the name will be a distinction without a difference.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> One way to make the load lighter is to try to make one decision at a
>>>> time. Entirely selfishly, I suggest looking at the chair election
>>>> first.
>>> 
>>> +1
>> 
>> This discussion has surely helped me decide who I will support. I have 
>> experienced the blessing / curse of very verbose individuals on MLs. These 
>> people dominant by verbiage.
> 
> Here's a vote for Noel, I think.

Maybe, maybe not. I like your proposal.

I think the 3 ASF member requirement in Chris's proposal raises a high bar for 
a podling. If I am correct Apache Flex has 2.

If it is different from Chris's then I think Bill should write his proposal.

It would be good to think about how the mentoring role changes in these 
proposals. 

Regards,
Dave

> 
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>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
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