On 1/31/2012 11:38 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> 
> Plainly wrong:  It has been repeatedly established (even by the Chair)
> that policy decisions here are not subject to veto.  This is one of those 
> times.
> Furthermore the documentation [1] clearly points out that procedural issues
> are to be decided by majority consensus, and nothing could be more procedural
> than a vote about how to count votes.
> 
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

You assert this is simply policy.  I assert that this is a fundamental
to "project bylaws", much like "we don't fork" (if we don't), or "all
votes require 3 +1's".  You change such things only by consensus or by
board mandate.

Greg just finished explaining that only the chair can submit any
changes to the PMC.  Try changing that with a simple majority vote.


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