+1 (non-binding) for the retirement proposal. Chen, the vote has nothing to do with whether you manage to release the 4th version or not, and the failure to see that and the failure to understand what Apache and the incubator is about is a testament to why the project should be retired, in my mind. On the other hand, I don't see why Apache is relevant to your release; you can merrily go ahead with releasing it without Apache at all.
Kalle On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Chen Liu <liuchen0...@gmail.com> wrote: > We've already known our failure in ASF. We would not > find any excuses for this bed situation. > But we just hope one more month to release the 4th version work. > We've been advancing Bluesky project and now the 4th version is an > integtared system including something about commercial. > We're aware of how to advance our development via ASF . > Just give us one more month to finish the rest of work. > If our work is not very well, pl vote us to retire. > > 2011/7/2 Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com> > >> +1 for retiring Bluesky >> >> I believe that the Bluesky project is well-intentioned but just doesn't >> belong at Apache. >> >> The coders do not use mail lists for discussions of design, code, >> infrastructure, or other aspects of project management that Apache projects >> must do. "If it didn't happen on the mail lists, it didn't happen." This >> would tell me that nothing is happening, yet code appears out of thin air. >> >> The coders are not committers. There is no path for coders to become >> committers. Coders appear this year and disappear the next. >> >> Despite multiple attempts to teach Bluesky members what it means to be an >> Apache project, no progress has been made. >> >> I think we should wish them well in their new home, wherever that happens >> to be. >> >> Craig >> >> >> On Jul 1, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> +1 (Binding) >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 to retire Bluesky (binding) >>>> >>>> I see no reason for suspending the vote. We've been round this >>>> particular merry-go-round many times already. Each time we're told >>>> "we'll do better". The votes been called lets just move on, the ASF is >>>> not the right home for this project for the reasons already discussed. >>>> >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> On 28 June 2011 06:49, berndf <ber...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. >>>>> >>>>> 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of >>>>> becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and >>>>> developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public >>>>> lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was >>>>> every made. >>>>> >>>>> There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!) >>>>> without much success. >>>>> >>>>> So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky. >>>>> The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC. >>>>> >>>>> [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being >>>>> [] -0/+0, I'm undecided >>>>> [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for voting, >>>>> >>>>> Bernd >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>>> --------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >>>> Programme Leader (Open Development) >>>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>> --------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>> >>> >> Craig L Russell >> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation >> Chair, OpenJPA PMC >> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
