I concur with Craig's thoughts. +1 to retire (binding).
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 19:27, Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote: > +1 for retiring Bluesky > > I believe that the Bluesky project is well-intentioned but just doesn't > belong at Apache. > > The coders do not use mail lists for discussions of design, code, > infrastructure, or other aspects of project management that Apache projects > must do. "If it didn't happen on the mail lists, it didn't happen." This > would tell me that nothing is happening, yet code appears out of thin air. > > The coders are not committers. There is no path for coders to become > committers. Coders appear this year and disappear the next. > > Despite multiple attempts to teach Bluesky members what it means to be an > Apache project, no progress has been made. > > I think we should wish them well in their new home, wherever that happens to > be. > > Craig > > On Jul 1, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> +1 (Binding) >> >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> +1 to retire Bluesky (binding) >>> >>> I see no reason for suspending the vote. We've been round this >>> particular merry-go-round many times already. Each time we're told >>> "we'll do better". The votes been called lets just move on, the ASF is >>> not the right home for this project for the reasons already discussed. >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> On 28 June 2011 06:49, berndf <ber...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. >>>> >>>> 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of >>>> becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and >>>> developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public >>>> lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was >>>> every made. >>>> >>>> There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!) >>>> without much success. >>>> >>>> So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky. >>>> The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC. >>>> >>>> [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being >>>> [] -0/+0, I'm undecided >>>> [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try >>>> >>>> Thanks for voting, >>>> >>>> Bernd >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >>> Programme Leader (Open Development) >>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > Craig L Russell > Secretary, Apache Software Foundation > Chair, OpenJPA PMC > c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
