On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings > how to work here at Apache. ... > The Incubator PMC is here to TEACH podlings. Stop and think before > attempting to apply "rules and procedures".
+1. The Incubation process is about certifying whether the new community can stand on its own and follow Apache practices and procedures. Greg has pointed at the public records and discussions surrounding Subversion doing releases - as a mentor, I feel that these processes are in-line (if not exceeding) the Apache practices and procedures and no more needs to be proven here regarding releases. If someone can point out where that process falls noticeably short of Apache standards, please let us know and we'll take it into consideration. To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole. The IPMC as a whole has only two roles: approving a proposal and recommending graduation - in between those two stages, it's up to the mentors to drive the show on behalf of the IPMC. Non-mentors don't get to hold a podling hostage and all votes by the IPMC are majority-based (no vetos apply). To be fair, there are some minor points and variations that we're already aware of. But, that's why Greg, Sander, Dan, and I (and others who aren't formally named) are around to teach the more subtle mechanics of the ASF to those within Subversion: where to submit CLAs, how to post releases in our mirroring system, what to do with (L)GPL scripts, etc. Given our personal long track records within both Apache and Subversion (nearing or surpassing a decade; geez, we've been at this a long time!), I believe it's reasonable to ask for the trust that goes with ensuring that we'll be sure to keep Subversion in line with Apache practices and procedures - and we will continue to do so long after the Incubator has recommended Subversion for graduation. =) -- justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
