On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:33 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Bottom line, what is the *motivation* to have non-ASF-member
Mentorships?
We need all the help we can get.
There's many people that volunteer to fill this mentoring role. Most
of them do a good job. They may not always be Members. There is no
correlation between doing a good job mentoring and being a Member,
and the postulation of a correlation is offensive without relevant data.
We have always allowed for non-Member mentors and it has never caused
an issue.
It's healthy for any community ecosystem to be as diverse as
possible. The ASF tries to be as open as possible, and this involves
putting as few barriers to participation as possible.
And such and so forth.
Most importantly, its a proven recipe that has yet to fail us.
So please give me some valid cases for this exception
No, that's the wrong way around. We made an initial policy, it has
worked in the past, it is working, and it has helped to resulted in
positive contributions to the ASF, and satisfies our basic openness
criteria. It should stay the way it is until there is a good reason
to change it. So far, I haven't seen that reason being brought up.
other than "but they are ready!" I don't care that they might
be ready - I'm asking for examples of motivation, and predictably
positive
outcomes from non-member mentorship.
How about you provide a predictably positive outcome from from-Member
mentorship first?
Mentorship isn't technical
Some of it is.
it's entire purpose is to convey "this is the ASF" to a podling.
No that's not the purpose of mentorship. The purpose of mentorship is
to help guide a new or existing open source community into the ASF in
a way that is good for both them and the ASF. (tangent: to me, the
most interesting of those communities are the ones that make the ASF
change its ways.)
It's silly to suggest non-ASF members can or should be that voice.
No, it isn't. I will assert there are many more non-Members that can
do that job well (and are willing to do it) than there are Members
that can do it well (and are willing to do it). I've been a Member
for long enough now and a Mentor several times know, and I will
assert there is very little it brings you that allows you to do a
good job at Mentoring.
/LSD
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