Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Raphaël Luta wrote: > > >>Do we have other incubating projects following the Kabuki pattern, ie >>all initial committers from a single company with the mentor salaried >>by the same company ? I'd sure like to know how these evolved if >>we have any. > > > Hmm ... I'd have to check, but XMLBeans, Beehive and Derby? Certainly > Derby, which was brought in by IBM and Mentored by Ken and Sam. >
Interesting. Derby had 3 mentors so they would pass the 3 members check although they are all tied to the sponsor. Beehive seems to have had 2 members from the get go (dims and craig) none of them associated with the sponsor. XMLBeans had only 1 member/committer from the beginning but not affiliated with the sponsor. > >>As far as i know, it has never been reviewed on the mailing-list >>probably because it didn't show up on the radar. > > > So should we take the lack of use as a critique against anything other than > visibility? > No but should the ASF provide instant visibility to any framework without having the sponsor to work at least a little on the community before coming to the ASF ? Isn't AjaxTk already open-sourced ? If you want to try something, go on sf.net, freshmeat, etc... and try *finding* AjaxTk. It sure helps understand why it's not on anybody's radar. Seeing Zimbra current OSS efforts with this toolkit (even with an ASF member in their team), I have a hard time believing this proposal is anything but a branding exercise to help this toolkit stand out in the crowd of Ajax toolkits. My "admission bar" for such proposals is set much higher than usual. -- Raphaël Luta - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache Portals - Enterprise Portal in Java http://portals.apache.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]