Hi Raphael, > I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit > when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under > incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by > Apache.
If that's indeed the problem then we need to work on clearing up that misconception. That concern applies to all projects in the Incubator, not just this candidate. I don't see it as reasonable to reject this proposal on that basis. > As long as this is true, accepting a project in the incubator even if > it stays there indefinitely *does* matter to me. > In the end, I don't think it's a personal prejudice but more a lack of > trust in the motivations of the proposal. That's a very strong statement .. let's please keep this conversation totally civil and respectful. This proposal is, after all, being strongly supported by Sam, who's not just a 2-bit member like me but rather a board member that you and I and other members elected to look after the best interests of the foundation. I've known Sam for many years and he's stubborn as a deaf mule and the last person who will give into pressure from his employer to do something that will harm the ASF. Sam has consistently been jumping into new stuff and really having dramatic impact quickly and intensely. I suspect he will do the same with this and I don't expect the other people around him will enjoy every minute of it. (I know I haven't for the stuff I've been around with him for ;-)) > I'm confused too by the voting process and repeated proposals even before > the discussion has died down. I think the new vote was called after the discussion settled (or we jumped to another horse to beat on) but clearly things are in a confused state now. Sanjiva. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]