Even if all Jakarta projects get top-level (which I doubt), Jakarta as a community can still remain. It is a place where Java developers can get together on common issues. Jakarta doesn't have to dite, it just needs to find it's own correct space, more about coordination ang getting together rather than being held accountable for a miriad of projects that it cannot possibly keep track of.
No doubt. But do you think, the same community could be *established* between, say, alexandria.apache.org, bcel.apache.org, bsf.apache.org, cactus.apache.org, ...?
I know, I am exaggerating. Just for illustration. But: My impression is written on the emails on this list, which I have read in the past few days. About four or five new proposals, each of them expressing their wish "to become a TLP". Today eight or ten current subprojects proposed for TLP.
Jochen
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