On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:05:26 +0200
> > From: Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project
> >
> > Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> > ...
> > > A word quite frequently used here is "community". Don't you think that
> > > the communities of jakarta, db, or xml are worth being kept? They would
> > > not even exist if anything were a top level project.
> >
> > Even if all Jakarta projects get top-level (which I doubt), Jakarta as a
> > community can still remain. It is a place where Java developers can get
> > together on common issues. Jakarta doesn't have to dite, it just needs
> > to find it's own correct space, more about coordination ang getting
> > together rather than being held accountable for a miriad of projects
> > that it cannot possibly keep track of.
> >
> >
>
> It's not clear to me that Jakarta has much "community" itself.  For
> example, when Ant migrated to being a TLP, the net effect on me was
> changing tree bookmarks (project home page and two mailing list archives
> links).
>
> The only Jakarta-wide resource I'm familiar with is the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailing list.  At one point, this had several thousand subscribers.  A
> couple of years ago, about the time some really virulent flame wars were
> going on, the subscriber count quickly dropped to around 900.  Today,
> there are 772 subscribers, and it's pretty quiet.  (For comparison, the
> struts-user has 2700 and tomcat-user has 2300, and both are very active.)

Do you think that the quietness of [EMAIL PROTECTED] is due to the TLP
expansion?

Hen


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