On Fri, 11 Jun 2021, Martin Sebor via Gcc wrote:

> On 6/11/21 11:32 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 18:02, Martin Sebor wrote:
> > > My objection is to making our policies and tools more restrictive
> > > than they need to be.  We shouldn't expect everyone to study whole
> > > manuals just to figure out how to successfully commit a change (or
> > > learn how to format it just the right way).  It should be easy.
> >
> > I agree, to some extent. But consistency is also good. The conventions
> > for GNU ChangeLog formatting exist for a reason, and so do the
> > conventions for good Git commit messages.
> >
> > > Setting this discussion aside for a moment and using a different
> > > example, the commit hook rejects commit messages that don't start
> > > ChangeLog entries with tabs.  It also rejects commit messages that
> > > don't list all the same test files as those changed by the commit
> > > (and probably some others as well).  That's in my view unnecessary
> > > when the hook could just replace the leading spaces with tabs and
> > > automatically mention all the tests.
> > >
> > > I see this proposal as heading in the same direction.  Rather than
> > > making the script fix things up if we get them wrong it would reject
> > > the commit, requiring the user to massage the ChangeLog by hand into
> > > an unnecessarily rigid format.
> >
> > You cannot "fix things up" in a server-side receive hook, because
> > changing the commit message would alter the commit hash, which would
> > require the committer to do a rebase to proceed. That breaks the
> > expected behaviour and workflow of a git repo.
> >
> > You can use the scripts on the client side to verify your commit
> > message before pushing, so you don't have to be surprised when the
> > server rejects it.
>
> That sounds like a killer argument.  Do we have shared client-side
> scripts that could fix things up for us, or are we each on our own
> to write them?

I hope I got your view wrong.  If not: the "scripts fixing
things up for us" direction is flawed (compared to the "scripts
rejecting bad formats"), unless offered as a non-default option;
please don't proceed.

Why?  For one, there'll always be bugs in the scripting.
Mitigate those situations: while wrongly rejecting a commit is
bad, wrongly "fixing things up" is worse, as a general rule.
Better avoid that.  (There's probably a popular "pattern name"
for what I try to describe.)

brgds, H-P

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